My full support to what Greg just said. I couldn't attend the
call due to other obligations, but I am puzzled with the
suggestion to send a document to a non-participant - who never
contributed to the work of the group - before sending it to the
plenary. What exactly is going to be achieved by this? Ms.
Ramasastry can join the group now (as far as I understand we are
open to participation at any stage), or she can choose to submit
her comments in the public comment period. Anything else is the
obstruction of the process.
Cheers
Tanya
It seems appropriate to discuss the call we had (since it happened). I don't believe she was a "UN representative" per se, but she (Anita Ramasastry (?)) had some relationship to the UN. (Unfortunately, I don't believe it was recorded, and I assume that none of us who were there have perfect recall, given mental overload, sleep deprivation, etc., but that's life.)
I would be opposed to any plan to submit any of our documents to Prof. Ramasastry before finalizing and submitting them to the CCWG. She can always comment in the Public Comment period. But we shouldn't privilege any non-participant in this manner. This is particularly the case since the current draft essentially makes no recommendation regarding the application (or not) of Ruggie in any operationalization* of the Bylaw. Thus it seems unnecessary, as well as inappropriate.
Greg
*(I use "operationalization" to avoid confusion with "implementation", which typically is used in ICANN-land to refer to post-policy development implementation of a policy. What we are referring to here is "implementing"/operationalization a Bylaw through policy development or through the modification of a policy development process.)
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:57 PM Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com> wrote:
Thank you Niels. Regarding the agenda, I believe we also stated in the drafting team meeting on Saturday that we were going to discuss with the full subgroup the call we had with the U.N. representative (Anita) arranged by Mark Carvell and the point that some in the group wanted to submit the documents to the U.N. representative prior to finalizing the recommendation to the full CCWG.
Even if the document is not submitted, we should advise the full subgroup of the call so I hope this can be added to the agenda.
Thank you,
Anne
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Dear all,
Please find attached and underneath the agenda for our session tomorrow March 21 at 19:00 UTC.
The document we'll discuss is the Copenhagen Drafting Team Consensus Document, which clearly was not a full consensus, so I've added the minority position of Anne Aikman-Scalese to the document for discussion.
Even though these two points are unresolved I hope we can still aim to have a first reading of the document, next to the discussion of the points of course.
1. Administrivia
Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc
2. First reading (of two) of the Considerations document prepared by the drafting team 3. AOB
The document can also be found here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rDYyuXacrSYDtlSK5JqNQe7XOX2LbM86AzfDay8zpoE/edit
Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
All the best,
Niels
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