I agree with CW, Greg, and Paul

 

David McAuley

 

 

From: ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Rosenzweig
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 2:27 PM
To: 'Greg Shatan'; 'CW Mail'
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+1  Everyone has opinions and second hand information.  We want primary sources on t his …

 

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From: ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 2:06 PM
To: CW Mail <mail@christopherwilkinson.eu>
Cc: ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org
Subject: Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] first draft of fact solicitation questions

 

I agree with CW on this one -- we are looking for first person facts, experiences and "anecdotal evidence."  The facts are best known by the participants, and third parties (viewing events from the outside) often make assumptions about what happened or otherwise get things wrong.

 

Greg

 

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:04 PM, CW Mail <mail@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:

Mike: I might see the point of broadening, if possible, the scope and catchment of the questions, but perhaps not in that way.

 

We should be dealing with Principals (in the sense of directly with those responsible for the entities concerned). Not their surrogates or other third parties.

Otherwise we risk receiving second hand information with which the Principals may not agree, and inviting 'bulk' replies from interested organisations.

 

We should also be cautious about receiving anonymous hearsay.

 

Just a thought

 

CW

 

 

 

 

On 23 Nov 2016, at 17:20, Mike Rodenbaugh <mike@rodenbaugh.com> wrote:

 

These seem well-stated, except perhaps they should not be looking only for personal experience, but broaden the request to seek any experience the responder is aware of?  So I suggest something like:

 

1.       Are you aware of any instance in which anyone's business, privacy, or ability to use or purchase DNS-related services, has been affected by ICANN's jurisdiction in any way?

If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and links to any relevant documents.

2.       Are you aware of any instance in which ICANN's jurisdiction affected any dispute resolution process or litigation related to domain names?

If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and links to any relevant documents.

 

 


Mike Rodenbaugh

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On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> wrote:

CW and I have agreed on the following draft:

 

 

Request for stakeholder input on jurisdiction issues

 

The Jurisdiction subgroup of the CCWG Accountability is asking for the community to provide factual input on the following questions:

 

1.       Has your business, your privacy or your ability to use or purchase DNS-related services, been affected by ICANN's jurisdiction in any way?

If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and links to any relevant documents.

 

2.       Has ICANN's jurisdiction affected any dispute resolution process or litigation related to domain names you have been involved in?

If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and links to any relevant documents.

 

 

 

Dr. Milton L. Mueller

Professor, School of Public Policy

Georgia Institute of Technology

 

 


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