On Thursday 18 August 2016 11:40 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
Parminder,


13:00 UTC is 6:00 am in the Pacific Time Zone, which includes the Western US (e.g., Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Phoenix, etc.) and Canada (e.g., Vancouver).  On the other end, 13:00 UTC is 1 am in New Zealand. 

Thanks Greg,
That certainly is a problem. But so is 1900 UTC which is 1230 past midnight in India, and 1 AM the entire world east of Bangladesh -- Id say a considerably bigger part of the world. I think we need some balancing of perspectives here.


If we bring in 7:00 am,

Sorry, is this UTC?

parminder

that takes in the Mountain Time Zone, which also includes a big swath of the US and Canada (e.g., Denver, Salt Lake City, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, etc.) as well as a portion of Central America (Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.). If we include 11 pm, that brings in eastern Australia (e.g., Melbourne, Sydney, etc.)

Greg

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:50 AM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:



On Wednesday 17 August 2016 11:40 PM, tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn wrote:

For the purpose of sharing the inconvenience of difficult time for the call, I also accept time rotation.


 It will be good to see what are to be called 'off hours' or 'difficult time' . If it is midnight to say 6 or 7 AM, I am not sure any participant falls in that period for the 1300 hrs UTC slot.... But I am just guessing... parminder

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Le 17 août 2016 à 18:35, McAuley, David <dmcauley@verisign.com> a écrit :

Thanks Greg and others for moving this forward.

 

I personally think that the time should be rotated to allow for a fair distribution of the inconvenience of participating in off-hours.

 

David

 

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From: ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan

Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:30 PM

To: Mike Silber

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Subject: Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup!

 

All,

 

Thanks for your comments to date.  We've heard from about a half-dozen members so far, and it would be helpful to hear from more before fixing a long-term slot or rotation.

 

In my view we need to accommodate our members as best we can, so we can do our work; those are the demographics we need to deal with.  I will note that "Iran and west" includes not only NA and EU, but also AF (as pointed out by Mike Silber) and SA, as well as the Middle East, Western Asia and portions of Central Asia.  I will also note that among the 4 respondents from "east of Iran" the votes for the 13:00 time slot, there were 2 yes votes, 1 if need be and 1 no.

 

All that said, this is a decision to be made by the group, and as such, the more members' voices heard the better.  I'm not sure running another doodle poll would help, but I'd rather let the discussion go forward first.  One shortcoming of polls is that they do not allow for dialogue.  As such, if there is another poll, let's have it after further dialogue, so that the participants can keep in mind various viewpoints as they respond.

 

In the interests of transparency, here are the quantitative results from the Doodle poll.  I excluded all results involving the 05:00 time slot, since there was little support for this slot in any configuration.

 

Greg

 

 

 

FIXED TIME VS. ROTATION SURVEY

 

MEMBERS ONLY

Yes

If Need be

No

 

19:00 Fixed Time

18

1

4

 

13:00 Fixed Time

10

3

10

 

13/19 Rotation

11

7

5

 

ALL PARTICIPANTS

 

 

 

 

19:00 Fixed Time

21

2

7

 

13:00 Fixed Time

13

5

12

 

13/19 Rotation

13

9

8

 

 

 

TIME OF DAY SURVEY (Yes : If Need Be : No)

MEMBERS ONLY

Monday

Tuesday

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

19:00

20:0:9

16:1:11

17:1:10

17:0:11

14:0:14

13:00

10:2:17

17:4:11

14:3:11

14:2:12

15:2:11

 

 

 

 

 

 

ALL PARTICIPANTS

 

 

 

 

 

19:00

24:2:10

19:3:14

21:2:14

20:0:16

18:1:17

13:00

15:2:19

17:5:14

19:3:14

17:2:17

20:2:14

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Mike Silber <silber.mike@gmail.com> wrote:

On 17 Aug 2016, at 14:26, Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu> wrote:

 

Greg:

I think it makes sense to alternate the meeting time, especially if there was something near to a bimodal distribution of preferences. While it may be true that a (NA-EU) majority finds the 19:00 UTC time most convenient, by alternating we can incorporate the preferences of a larger segment of the group.

 

Just as aside - AF finds 19:00 convenient too, but it seems the thoughts of Africa are not that relevant

 

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