On 15-Jun-17 14:38, Greg Shatan wrote:

you will even see that Thomas cited one of your contributions from the first meeting

I have now read the captioning - am very grateful for captioning and recommend we do it for all AC meetings in ICANN. Quoting the captioning from Thomas: And so I would establish in the minutes of this call that we focus on the solution that gets most traction. Recognizing that this does not eliminate, as I think Avri said during last week's call, that we can discuss all issues that might arise during the deliberations. But that we actually focus on the status quo being Californian law and place of incorporation. And California and work on solutions that are founded on this very recommendation. I would like to discuss this. I did say that we should work on the _assumption _that we were going to maintain the status quo and should try and solve all of the issues on that basis. I did not mean to limit what the solutions might be and certainly had no intention of limiting the set to exclude talk of immunities. Immunities, seem to me, to be one of the tools that could make the status quo more palatable to those who don't and can't accept it. So while I proposed that conversation of moving be put aside, until and unless, we found problems that could not be rmedied in any other way, I did not intend that proposal to be understood as putting aside discussion of all possible immunities. This would not include all possible immunities as some of the current accountability measure rely on access to California courts. But not all possible immunities necessarily contradict the assumptions of our current model. I believe we should still be open to discussing those. To the degree that the current decision is immutable, after one reading, on excluding both a planned move and discussion of any immunities, I do not support the decision. I do support putting aside any discussion of moving or of immunities incompatible with our current accountability schemes, but also do support discussion of possible immunities/remedies that do not harm the current accountability schemes. thanks avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus