Hello, I just went through the notes which ofcourse will not contain details of what happened but gives an idea of how things transpired in the meeting. I have to say I was quite amazed at the level of "seeming" gang-up happening in the chat. Even though I remain one of the people who believe that there is no (can be no) reason that would be strong enough to validate change of ICANN jurisdiction in near future, I support asking question that identifies problems based on facts and I also don't see any issue with asking factual possibilities as it's something that can be easily proved wrong if the test on the facts don't checkout. I was surprised and "somewhat" disappointed to observe the level of sharp opposition on just questions on the chat. I have to note that there may still be need to work on how to better determine consensus in a diverse MS community like ours were each individual have varying access to resources as I think something feels broken. Anyway, I like to pick a question posed by farzeneh below. I don't know if it was answered. I hope the response is the latter as described in her question. "Farzaneh Badii: (07:28) If you get a response about ICANN jurisdiction that does not directly relate to the questions but it is a problem that ICANN jurisdiction raises, is the group going to discard it?or are we gonna discuss it within the mandate of the group…" While it seem progress was achieved in sending questions 1 to 4, all I will say is that I pray wisdom for the rapporteur as he leads this diverse group. Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
Dear All, As you recall, I did ask Greg to provide a formal reply to Farzaneh Question which deserved to be replied. I hope Grec , in his presentation would refer to the matter an reply, if his response would not be convincing I will raise the matter and request the CO-CHAIRS to formally respond in a satisfactory manner. Regards Kavouss 2017-01-10 21:13 GMT+01:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Hello,
I just went through the notes which ofcourse will not contain details of what happened but gives an idea of how things transpired in the meeting. I have to say I was quite amazed at the level of "seeming" gang-up happening in the chat.
Even though I remain one of the people who believe that there is no (can be no) reason that would be strong enough to validate change of ICANN jurisdiction in near future, I support asking question that identifies problems based on facts and I also don't see any issue with asking factual possibilities as it's something that can be easily proved wrong if the test on the facts don't checkout. I was surprised and "somewhat" disappointed to observe the level of sharp opposition on just questions on the chat.
I have to note that there may still be need to work on how to better determine consensus in a diverse MS community like ours were each individual have varying access to resources as I think something feels broken.
Anyway, I like to pick a question posed by farzeneh below. I don't know if it was answered. I hope the response is the latter as described in her question.
"Farzaneh Badii: (07:28) If you get a response about ICANN jurisdiction that does not directly relate to the questions but it is a problem that ICANN jurisdiction raises, is the group going to discard it?or are we gonna discuss it within the mandate of the group…"
While it seem progress was achieved in sending questions 1 to 4, all I will say is that I pray wisdom for the rapporteur as he leads this diverse group.
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
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+1 to Seun. GDS De : ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org] De la part de Seun Ojedeji Envoyé : mardi 10 janvier 2017 21:14 À : ws2-jurisdiction Objet : [***] [Ws2-jurisdiction] Was that progress? Hello, I just went through the notes which ofcourse will not contain details of what happened but gives an idea of how things transpired in the meeting. I have to say I was quite amazed at the level of "seeming" gang-up happening in the chat. Even though I remain one of the people who believe that there is no (can be no) reason that would be strong enough to validate change of ICANN jurisdiction in near future, I support asking question that identifies problems based on facts and I also don't see any issue with asking factual possibilities as it's something that can be easily proved wrong if the test on the facts don't checkout. I was surprised and "somewhat" disappointed to observe the level of sharp opposition on just questions on the chat. I have to note that there may still be need to work on how to better determine consensus in a diverse MS community like ours were each individual have varying access to resources as I think something feels broken. Anyway, I like to pick a question posed by farzeneh below. I don't know if it was answered. I hope the response is the latter as described in her question. "Farzaneh Badii: (07:28) If you get a response about ICANN jurisdiction that does not directly relate to the questions but it is a problem that ICANN jurisdiction raises, is the group going to discard it?or are we gonna discuss it within the mandate of the group…" While it seem progress was achieved in sending questions 1 to 4, all I will say is that I pray wisdom for the rapporteur as he leads this diverse group. Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
participants (3)
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DE SALINS Ghislain -
Kavouss Arasteh -
Seun Ojedeji