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Re: [Ws2-so_ac] Agenda for our next call Thursday Jan 26 at 1300 UTC
by Alan Greenberg Jan. 26, 2017

Jan. 26, 2017

The revised statement is attached. The same caveats apply. Alan At 26/01/2017 12:52 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote: >As promised, albeit not with a lot of spare >time, here is the first draft of the ALAC >answers to the SO/AC Accountability Questions. It is not unreasonably long! > >This is for the Subgroup's use only and should >not be further distributed. It has not yet been >seen, reviewed or vetted by the ALAC or RALOs, and is subject to change. > >That being said, I think it reasonably reflects >the state of affairs within At-Large. > >Alan > >At 25/01/2017 09:39 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote: > >>Please join the Work Stream 2 - SOAC >>Accountability Subgroup Meeting #18 on Thursday, 26th January @ 13:00 UTC. >> >>CALL DETAILS: >>Link to Adobe Connect: >><https://participate.icann.org/mssi-projects>https://participate.icann.org/mssi-projects >> >>Mobile: >><tel://1-719-867-0497,*,,5263384535#>tel://1-719-867-0497,*,,5263384535# >> >>Agenda: >> >>0. Call Administration (2-5 min CLO) >> >>1. Review of any AI's from call #16 on January >>12th @1300 UTC (2-5 min) CLO) >>see <https://community.icann.org/x/FJTDAw>https://community.icann.org/x/FJTDAw >> >>2. Any Updates: (5 min CLO/FB /SDB) >> >>3. Discussion, current DRAFT >>documentations readings and review. (30-45 min FB/SDB/CLO) >> >>a) Data Capture documentation of input >>materials from SOAC's - As agreed in last >>week's call, while exploring methodology, we >>will review and discuss, the sample topic from >>this track from the data capture exercise, >>'Transparency' see reference drafts attached to >>the email from Steve DelBianco received to list >><https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-so_ac>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-so_ac >>earlier today. >> >>4. Next Meeting and future Meeting schedule (2 min CLO) >> >>Â· 02 February @ 19:00 UTC >> >>Â· 09 February @ 05:00 UTC >> >>Â· 16 February @ 13:00 UTC >> >>Â· 02 March @ 05:00 UTC >> >>5. AOB and review of any AI's. (3 min CLO) >> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Content-Disposition: inline >>X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: >> >>1;MWHPR03MB2718;27:xawdkw2/jc2jL3pMxg+LDIy8joDo9699xt1NEydi5QwolhkkL65EVzYMdbmj/SlH5bvhNlB5sG8oXUwQ4TCC6SN19ylMBXmdIFjeMLL1Qjh56750WOpeZGRSpRZeMJIMxNFzJTY9P3belfZXMtTyZA== >>X-Microsoft-Antispam-Mailbox-Delivery: >> ex:0;auth:0;dest:I;ENG:(20160514016)(520000050)(520002050)(750028); >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Ws2-so_ac mailing list >>Ws2-so_ac(a)icann.org >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-so_ac

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Notes, recordings and transcript for SOAC Subgroup Meeting # 18 | 26 January
by MSSI Secretariat Jan. 26, 2017

Jan. 26, 2017

Hello all, The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2 SO/AC Subgroup Meeting #18 – 26 January 2017 will be available here: https://community.icann.org/x/9a-DAw A copy of the notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer MSSI Projects & Operations Assistant ICANN - Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Notes (including relevant parts of chat) 0. Call Administration Cheryl Langdon-Orr: no updates to SOIs. 1. Review of any AI's from call #16 on January 12th @1300 UTC (2-5 min) CLO) see https://community.icann.org/x/FJTDAw[community.icann.org] Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (none) 2. Any Updates: Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (none) 3. Discussion, current DRAFT documentations, readings and review. a) Data Capture documentation of input materials from SOAC's - As agreed in last week's call, while exploring methodology, we will review and discuss, the sample topic from this track from the data capture exercise, 'Transparency' see reference drafts attached to the email from Steve DelBianco received to list https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-so_ac earlier today. Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Exploration of methodology using one topic only. Alan Greenberg: Response from ALAC has not been approved by the ALAC. Steve DelBianco: Deep dive on Transparency Mechanisms (document). Hope this will provide a method for all aspects of this work. Not trying to point out failings of any SO or AC - its about finding the best practices. (Review of document). Alan Greenberg: looking at the list. items included were based on interpretations of the questions. If we were looking vs capture we should of mentioned that. Steve DelBianco: I note that we are supplementing this with our independent research to match the facts from all responses. As to the second point - the text notes Capture. Transparency can help identify capture - but cannot prevent it. Alan Greenberg: After this discussion, I can now review my responses to tailor them to these objectives. Steve DelBianco: We are open to supplementary information coming in. Kavouss Arasteh: Internal or external capture? Steve DelBianco: Would seem to be mostly Internal capture but not limited to this. Alan Greenberg: Steve, all I was saying that as completing the answers, that was NOT something I focused on DESPITE the Bylaw and my history with this project. It was not something I focused on. matthew shears: we should see this as iterative Alan Greenberg: Once something has been vetted, going back and revising may be problematic - not related to this group's rules. Steve DelBianco: Missing RSSAC. Kavouss Arasteh: should mention that this internal capture is not addressing Sress Test 18. Which review are you referring to, self review or different? Steve DelBianco: On page 3 section 4.4 of Bylaws says its an independent review. Kavouss Arasteh: Tks ,then emphasize that in our report Kavouss Arasteh: Pls clarfy the independent process Greg Shatan: Concerned about the need for full consensus being part of capture. Steve DelBianco: discussion of draft recommendations in document. These are meant to be Best Practices for the SOACs where they are free to implement and how to implement these. (presentation of the 6 draft recommendations). Rinalia Abdul Rahim: I personally like the approach of establishing best practices on transparency as a guide/benchmark for SO/ACs. Some SO/ACs are likely to exceed the baseline, and that is fine. jorge villa (ASO): +1 Rinalia Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): I personally agree with you Rinalia jorge villa (ASO): All the SO/ACs are different in structure, composition, interests and functioning. The best practices approach might provide a common ground on the recommended aspects. Farzaneh Badii: I like how the recommendations on transparency is done on page 3 matthew shears: agree with the approach Steve - sets a good precedent for the work going forward Farzaneh Badii: it is to the point, does not call out on any group Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): all ALAC, RALO and At-Large meetings unless specifically declared as going into 'camera' for closed to Members only with declared reason are Open, Recorded ( often in several language options) Transcripts made and where relevant minuted... And all are published to public wki and lists. SOACs should be publish what they are supposed to do. Alan Greenberg: We even have interpretation for meetings where it is not actually needed so the others can later listen or read. Steve DelBianco: CLO SOACs should publish the details of their transparency requirements. Will add recommendation on open or closed meeting. Would request more volunteers to do this for the other two points. Farzaneh Badii: shall we work on outreach next? Farzaneh Badii: as a part of participation Farzaneh Badii: I think those that function differently can take these recs or leave it Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): seems a good suggestion Farzi we will check with the group Julf Helsingius: Yes, there are (justified) exceptions Alan Greenberg: We need to somehow say that the best practices for some circumstances where it could not work at all. Farzaneh Badii: we are not in charge of implementation if they see the recs are not fit, they don't have to do it Steve DelBianco: subject to specific and documented Limitations for some group. Alan Greenberg: We cannot make it a requirement if they cannot. avri doria: apologies for not having sent in the GNSO-NCSG data before now. Just sent it to Steve. Alan Greenberg: It is not OUR job, but that job description might be written one day. Alan Greenberg: Steve, in light of this meeting, I will have a revised version before the end of the day, so perhaps wait until you see that to integrate ALAC. Steve DelBianco: okay Alan. I will add this Transparency bit to the Google Doc next jorge villa (ASO): In the world of network operations, the best practices are recommendations (based on the experience of the community). no one has the obligation of do everything includes on the best practices recommendations. We asume it as main topics to consider (if possible). Cheryl Langdon-Orr: this will need to be continued and would ask more join the drafting teams. FB has suggested we continue with this approach Steve DelBianco: I think that matches our concept here, Jorge Julf Helsingius: I agree Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Is everyone agreeing that Outreach be our topic for our next call? (no objections). Let us remember to treat these documents as living documents. Steve DelBianco: where Outreach is an activity that is an aspect of participation Farzaneh Badii: yes :) Steve DelBianco: Farzi -- would you be able to lead that drafting? Farzaneh Badii: I will 4. Next Meeting and future Meeting schedule · 02 February @ 19:00 UTC · 09 February @ 05:00 UTC · 16 February @ 13:00 UTC · 02 March @ 05:00 UTC 5. AOB and review of any AI's. Cheryl Langdon-Orr: (none). Adjourned.

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Draft transparency review for SOAC Subgroup Meeting # 18, on 26-Jan-2017
by Steve DelBianco Jan. 26, 2017

Jan. 26, 2017

On our 19-Jan-2017 call, I offered to draft a review of one aspect of accountability — Transparency: Steve DelBianco: Once we have described best practices, our "review" could identify AC/SOs coudl benefit from moving towards the best practices. THAT could be our "recommendation. that is, we compare each AC/SO against the Best Practices, and not against each other Kavouss suggests a linear approach, ie take one question at a time in our next calls and analyze the responses to test the methodology, If we do that, let's start with an easier question, e.g. Transparency. Attached is my 3-page draft review and recommendations for transparency of each SOAC and subgroups that provided responses. Hope we can discuss on our next call. —Steve — Steve DelBianco Executive Director NetChoice http://www.NetChoice.org<http://www.netchoice.org/> +1.703.615.6206

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Re: [Ws2-so_ac] Agenda for our next call Thursday Jan 26 at 1300 UTC
by Alan Greenberg Jan. 25, 2017

Jan. 25, 2017

As promised, albeit not with a lot of spare time, here is the first draft of the ALAC answers to the SO/AC Accountability Questions. It is not unreasonably long! This is for the Subgroup's use only and should not be further distributed. It has not yet been seen, reviewed or vetted by the ALAC or RALOs, and is subject to change. That being said, I think it reasonably reflects the state of affairs within At-Large. Alan At 25/01/2017 09:39 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote: >Please join the Work Stream 2 - SOAC >Accountability Subgroup Meeting #18 on Thursday, 26th January @ 13:00 UTC. > >CALL DETAILS: >Link to Adobe Connect: ><https://participate.icann.org/mssi-projects>https://participate.icann.org/mssi-projects > >Mobile: ><tel://1-719-867-0497,*,,5263384535#>tel://1-719-867-0497,*,,5263384535# > >Agenda: > >0. Call Administration (2-5 min CLO) > >1. Review of any AI's from call #16 on January >12th @1300 UTC (2-5 min) CLO) >see <https://community.icann.org/x/FJTDAw>https://community.icann.org/x/FJTDAw > >2. Any Updates: (5 min CLO/FB /SDB) > >3. Discussion, current DRAFT >documentations readings and review. (30-45 min FB/SDB/CLO) > >a) Data Capture documentation of input materials >from SOAC's - As agreed in last week's call, >while exploring methodology, we will review and >discuss, the sample topic from this track from >the data capture exercise, 'Transparency' see >reference drafts attached to the email from >Steve DelBianco received to list ><https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-so_ac>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-so_ac >earlier today. > >4. Next Meeting and future Meeting schedule (2 min CLO) > >Â· 02 February @ 19:00 UTC > >Â· 09 February @ 05:00 UTC > >Â· 16 February @ 13:00 UTC > >Â· 02 March @ 05:00 UTC > >5. AOB and review of any AI's. (3 min CLO) > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline >X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > >1;MWHPR03MB2718;27:xawdkw2/jc2jL3pMxg+LDIy8joDo9699xt1NEydi5QwolhkkL65EVzYMdbmj/SlH5bvhNlB5sG8oXUwQ4TCC6SN19ylMBXmdIFjeMLL1Qjh56750WOpeZGRSpRZeMJIMxNFzJTY9P3belfZXMtTyZA== >X-Microsoft-Antispam-Mailbox-Delivery: > ex:0;auth:0;dest:I;ENG:(20160514016)(520000050)(520002050)(750028); > >_______________________________________________ >Ws2-so_ac mailing list >Ws2-so_ac(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-so_ac

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Agenda for our next call Thursday Jan 26 at 1300 UTC
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Jan. 25, 2017

Jan. 25, 2017

*Please join the Work Stream 2 - SOAC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #18 on Thursday, 26th January @ 13:00 UTC.* *CALL DETAILS:Link to Adobe Connect:* https://participate.i cann.org/mssi-projects *Mobile: tel://1-719-867-0497,*,,5263384535# <//1-719-867-0497,*,,5263384535#>* *Agenda:* 0. Call Administration (2-5 min CLO) 1. Review of any AI's from call #16 on January 12th @1300 UTC (2-5 min) CLO) see https://community.icann.org/x/FJTDAw 2. Any Updates: (5 min CLO/FB /SDB) 3. Discussion, current DRAFT documentations readings and review. (30-45 min FB/SDB/CLO) a) Data Capture documentation of input materials from SOAC's - As agreed in last week's call, while exploring methodology, we will review and discuss, the sample topic from this track from the data capture exercise, 'Transparency' see reference drafts attached to the email from Steve DelBianco received to list https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-so_ac earlier today. 4. Next Meeting and future Meeting schedule (2 min CLO) · 02 February @ 19:00 UTC · 09 February @ 05:00 UTC · 16 February @ 13:00 UTC · 02 March @ 05:00 UTC 5. AOB and review of any AI's. (3 min CLO)

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Notes, recordings and transcript for SOAC Subgroup Meeting # 17 | 19 January
by MSSI Secretariat Jan. 23, 2017

Jan. 23, 2017

Hello all, The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2 SO/AC Subgroup Meeting #17 – 19 January 2017 will be available here: https://community.icann.org/x/baPDAw A copy of the notes may be found below. Thank you. With kind regards, Brenda Brewer MSSI Projects & Operations Assistant ICANN - Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Notes (including relevant parts of chat): 0. Call Administration Audio only: no participants - roll call will be taken from AC room. No SOI updates 1. Review of any AI's from call #16 on January 12th @1300 UTC Encourage more participants to volunteer to take part in the drafting team, as there is a lot of work and little time remaining before Copenhagen Very close to receiving additional response from IPC Greg Shatan: IPC response is all but final -- it's being put out for comments by membership for a couple of days and then will be submitted to this august body. 2. Updates Limited updates, suggestion to move to 3rd item of agenda 3. Data Capture documentation of input materials from SOAC's - Methodology review and discuss, desired objectives for this track from the data capture exercise see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OyUsSISvrcvotPpTCSqpAr4iqz7edoyUKPQD0ef… Farzaneh presented the categories she proposes to organize the data capture documentation. We need to agree on the methodology and start implementing. We have received responses from GNSO, ccNSO, RCC, NCUC, ISPCP, ASO, GAC and SSAC. Only 2 GNSO subgroups have not responded: NCSG and NPOC (Registries and registrars) Some responses are very specific, and others are more general Farzaneh Badii: expectation is to come up with workplan for each SO/AC? or can it just be general? coming up with recommendations for each SO/AC is a very large task, I don't know if we have the means to do that. Greg: I think that rather than customizing recommendations for each SO/AC, we should come up with best practices or overall advice, and it's up to each organization to operationalize these recommendations Alan: each group is unique, I doubt there are going to be many similarities. We can only summarise the responses. Do the responses include a self assessment, or just reflect on facts? Steve DelBianco: What Alan is describing satisfies our charter to "Review". But it does not meet our charter to "develop recommendations to improve processess" Several remarks in the chat in favor of the "best practices" approach. Steve: our initial proposal was to identify unique vs convergent mechanisms. Categorizing mechanisms as best practices is an add-on. Steve DelBianco: Once we have described best practices, our "review" could identify AC/SOs coudl benefit from moving towards the best practices. THAT could be our "recommendation. that is, we compare each AC/SO against the Best Practices, and not against each other Kavouss suggests a linear approach, ie take one question at a time in our next calls and analyze the responses to test the methodology, Steve: if we do that, let's start with an easier question, eg the Transparency question. Kavouss Arasteh: Steve , the easiest question may not represent the methodology to be agreed for difficult question. Cheryl: we shall continue our plee for more volunteers to join the drafting team. Proposed way forward: drafting team to pick 1 question to analyze in our next call. 4. Next Meeting and future Meeting schedule • 26 January @ 13:00 UTC • 02 February @ 19:00 UTC • 09 February @ 05:00 UTC • 16 February @ 13:00 UTC • 02 March @ 05:00 UTC Documents Presented · Data-Capture-Accountability.pdf<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/63153005/Data-Capture-Acco…>

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IPC Response to Subgroup Questions
by Greg Shatan Jan. 21, 2017

Jan. 21, 2017

Fellow Subgroup Members, I am submitting, on behalf of the Intellectual Property Constituency, the IPC's response to the Subgroup's questions. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the attached. Best regards, Greg Shatan IPC President

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Agenda for today's meeting of Work Stream 2 - SOAC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #17 on Thursday, 19th January @ 05:00 UTC.
by Cheryl Langdon-Orr Jan. 18, 2017

Jan. 18, 2017

*Please join the Work Stream 2 - SOAC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #17 on Thursday, 19th January @ 05:00 UTC.* *CALL DETAILS:Link to Adobe Connect:* https://participate.i cann.org/mssi-projects *Mobile: tel://1-719-867-0497,*,,5263384535# <//1-719-867-0497,*,,5263384535#>* *Agenda:* 0. Call Administration (2-5 min CLO) 1. Review of any AI's from call #16 on January 12th @1300 UTC (2-5 min) CLO) see https://community.icann.org/x/FJTDAw 2. Updates: (5 min CLO/FB /SDB) * Input from the Survey sent to SOandAC's * Any Sub Team Activities since our last call 3. Discussion, current DRAFT documentations readings and review. (30-40 min FB/SDB/CLO) a) Data Capture documentation of input materials from SOAC's - Methodology review and discuss, desired objectives for this track from the data capture exercise see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OyUsSISvrcvotPpTC SqpAr4iqz7edoyUKPQD0ef-Yj0/edit?usp=sharing b) Overall Reporting See https://docs.google.com/do cument/d/14XrP2QiGv04qNtn_EuOR3nEc6uAN2ySlpQM5f69PNI8/edit?u sp=sharing[docs.google.com] - track 1. Review and discuss time line and process for Drafting ST1 to conduct Data Capture and Develop Recommendations to improve SO and AC processes for accountability, transparency, and participation that are helpful to prevent capture. - track 2. Evaluate the proposed “Mutual Accountability Roundtable” to assess its viability and, if viable, undertake the necessary actions to implement it. The preliminary conclusion in the doc on page 4 - track 3. Assess whether the Independent Review Process (IRP) should be applied to SO & AC activities.------ The preliminary conclusion in the doc on page 5 -----> Discussion regarding this outcome and CCWG Plenary. 4. Next Meeting and future Meeting schedule (2 min CLO) · 26 January @ 13:00 UTC · 02 February @ 19:00 UTC · 09 February @ 05:00 UTC · 16 February @ 13:00 UTC · 02 March @ 05:00 UTC 5. AOB and review of any AI's. (3 min CLO)

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IPC Responding Soon
by Greg Shatan Jan. 13, 2017

Jan. 13, 2017

All, The IPC response is nearly complete, but still needs to be reviewed by membership. I expect to submit to the Subgroup it next week. Greg Shatan

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Notes, recordings, transcript for WS2 SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #16 - 12 JAN 17
by MSSI Secretariat Jan. 12, 2017

Jan. 12, 2017

Hello All, The notes, recordings and transcripts for WS2 SO/AC Accountability Subgroup | Meeting #16 @ 13:00 UTC - 12 January 2017 will be made available here: https://community.icann.org/x/qpnDAw For your reference, a copy of the notes are below. Thank you! Kind Regards, Yvette Guigneaux Multi-Stakeholder & Strategic Initiative Asst. ICANN Email: yvette.guigneaux(a)icann.org<mailto:yvette.guigneaux@icann.org> Cell: +1-310-460-8432 Skype: yvette.guigneaux.icann 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Playa Vista, CA 90094 ________________________________ Notes (including relevant portions of chat) 0. Call Administration (2-5 min CLO) * No audio only, roll call will be taken from the AC room. * No SOI updates. * Please test your audio, staff can get you a dial-out if anyone needs one 1. Review of any AI's from call #15 on December 15th * Thanks to all who were able to contribute over the break to assembling responses from the questionnaire. * Still accepting volunteers to join the team in charge of analyzing the responses. * request to change the time of 19 January @ 05:00 UTC: not possible - the 19:00 slot is not available. 2. Updates: * Input from the Survey sent to SO and AC's * have received substantial inputs * Steve DelBianco: All 7 of the responses received are here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2CLsyXLvhweOVZLSWctMVhTaUU[drive.g…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_drive…> * asking Stafff to add the responses to the wiki * Brenda Brewer: already done. See SOAC documents here: https://community.icann.org/x/lBWOAw[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_…> * Steve DelBianco: We did not receive a response from ALAC or from RSSAC, as far as I can tell * Alan Greenberg: ALAC response is coming, in about 2 weeks (estimated by end of January). ALAC was busy with the review. * CW: I would like to get a heads up e-mail when a new response is received. * Cheryl: we will, probably by a message to the full list * Steve: do we know if RSSAC plans to provide a response? if not, could we reach out to them? * Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): we will make a follow-up with RSSAC, viable CCWG Co-Chairs (Thomas) * There are a few more constituency groups that have not responded, not sure if they will. * Thomas Rickert: We can switch to "harassement mode" to get more responses * avri doria: we have a response from NCUC, not NCSG. i will look into getting one from the NCSG ACTION (Thomas Rickert): reach out to RSSAC to find out if they will provide an answer to the SO/AC questionnaire, and get an understanding from the various GNSO subgroups of which ones plan to provide a response. * Any Sub Team Activities since our last call * sub team activities ducktale into agenda item 3 3. Discussion, current DRAFT documentations readings and review a) Data Capture documentation of input materials from SOAC's * Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: Cherly, as I have expressed I volunteer to be part of the drafting team. * Steve DelBianco: Our task in Track 1 is to "review and develop recommendations" on SOAC Accountability, per this Bylaw: Section 27.1. WORK STREAM 2, (b) The CCWG-Accountability recommended in its Supplemental Final Proposal on Work Stream 1 Recommendations to the Board, dated 23 February 2016 ("CCWG-Accountability Final Report") that the below matters be reviewed and developed following the adoption date of these Bylaws ("Work Stream 2 Matters"), in each case, to the extent set forth in the CCWG-Accountability Final Report:(iii) Supporting Organization and Advisory Committee accountability, including but not limited to improved processes for accountability, transparency, and participation that are helpful to prevent capture; * Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): huge thanks to all who have contributed to this work so far and especially Farzaneh * Steve: We have quite a bit of work to do, have to read all the responses in detail, and we need to organize our work * Who had stepped forward to help? Steve, Olga. We don't have the people to do the work on this call. * Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: There were other volunteers, maybe they are not in the call now * Michael Abejuela (ASO): I am happy to assist in this work * CW: I volunterred for something last year, but I have a holiday blank as to what exactly I was supposed to do. * Can staff go back to previous notes to see who else had volunteered? * Steve: any comments from the group on the work that was done by the drafting team so far? * Alan: we shouldn't get too much in the details in our recommendations, the intent is more important than the implementation. * Michael Abejuela (ASO): We should be careful on taking the stance of "recommending" vs. stating an observation and stating a principle of accountability for which we strive. Agree with Alan that it should not be a mandate particularly in implementation of a particular principle. * Steve: We should be explicit in what was reported. For example, with regards to decision appeal mechanisms, we could 1) identify which SO/AC have any, and which don't, 2) from there we could make the recommendation that those who don't have one consider implementing one. * Cheryl: we need to carefully weigh in if our recommendations are implementable. * Consitutency groups each have a charter. We can get inputs from these charters. * avri doria: the NCSG chater is at: <https://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf>[gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_impr…> * Sebastien (ALAC): http://www.npoc.org/media/files/NPOC_Charter_Approved_06-24-2011.pdf[npoc.o…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.npoc.org_media_file…> b) Overall Reporting See https://docs.google.com/document/d/14XrP2QiGv04qNtn_EuOR3nEc6uAN2ySlpQM5f69…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/14XrP2QiGv04qNtn_EuOR3nEc6uAN2ySlpQM5f69…>] - track 1. Review and discuss time line and process for Drafting ST1 to conduct Data Capture and Develop Recommendations to improve SO and AC processes for accountability, transparency, and participation that are helpful to prevent capture. - track 2. Evaluate the proposed "Mutual Accountability Roundtable" to assess its viability and, if viable, undertake the necessary actions to implement it. The preliminary conclusion in the doc on page 4 - track 3. Assess whether the Independent Review Process (IRP) should be applied to SO & AC activities.------ The preliminary conclusion in the doc on page 5 -----> Discussion regarding this outcome and CCWG Plenary. * Cheryl: Only 7 weeks left before Copenhagen. We would like to have a document ready in advance to send to the CCWG, in order to receive guidance from the plenary during the F2F meeting. Overall reporting document needs to continue to be updated and worked on, not only during these calls but also in between. * CW: since I shall leave the call early, please note lthat under Track 2 (MART) and Track 3 (IRP), my point of view is reflected in the draft report, so I would not support substantive amendment. 4. Next Meeting and future Meeting schedule * 19 January @ 05:00 UTC * 26 January @ 13:00 UTC * 02 February @ 19:00 UTC * 09 February @ 05:00 UTC * 16 February @ 13:00 UTC * 02 March @ 05:00 UTC 5. AOB and review of any AI's

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