Interesting idea, Kiki! Making all the NRIs dovetail into the annual
WSIS review is interesting and may cut off the "grand redundancy" - the
global IGF:) This may make the case for IGF to just be renewed for
another 10 years and not made permanent until the National and Regional
IGF Initiatives mature.

Nick,

As much as I can recall, the UN General Assembly, which includes Russia,
approved the "Pact for the Future" last September in New York, and IGF
is recognised in the GDC (para 70) as IMPORTANT to the implementation of
the GDC. So, I don't see IGF becoming insignificant anytime soon. TO
your point on AI dialogue displacing it, I also adjudge this to be much
of a hype. AI/genAI are E-applications and they fall into the WSIS
Action Line C7 (eApplications). On the WSIS+20 Review, I consider the
only change desirable is to add "Artificial Intelligence" as one of the
Applications under AL C7. This does not mean that there is no need to
focus on it as recommended in the GDC.

In April this year, CSTD further underscored the important role of IGF
in Internet Governance and digital policy discussions, and this
sentiment will extend to ECOSOC and finally to the GA when a decision on
WSIS will be made later this year.

Pari,

I was in the CSTD WG on IGF Improvement in 2011 and retreat in 2016 on
the occasion of the 10th Anniversary of the IGF. Indeed, the IGF has
come a long way. Improvement today can come in the use of AI to
synthesize its output documents. But as you know, IGF is not a
resolution-making body, it is designed to be for capacity development,
networking, and fostering best practices that can translate to local or
regional initiatives and feed into other discussion fora as you
mentioned. The CSTD is for resolution-making, and as I indicated in my
recent article
(https://circleid.com/posts/wsis20-igf-ec-gdc-and-the-future-of-digital),
it is already fulfilling the Tunis Agenda (para 68) mandate on Enhanced
Cooperation on public policy matters pertaining to the Internet with
Russia as a member.

Irrespective of whether IGF is incorporated into the UN system, we (in
ICANN) must take the lead to provide predictable annual funding for the
IGF through, say, a certain percentage of the accruing interest in the
Auction Proceeds, as I mentioned before. It is in our interest to do so.
The concern about some governments against IGF is simply to setup
another UN entity to take over the work of ICANN. The move had failed in
the past, and we should NOT let that happen!? Not now or anytime in the
future.

So, Jason, the scope of the article, the "IGF we want," is ok from my
perspective. If you wish to do another one on WSIS; it may be plausible
to recognise that Enhanced Cooperation per para 68 is operational in
CSTD, ICANN GAC, and in other fora so that countries concerned by it can
have closure.

Jimson


On 2025-05-20 04:55, Kiki Fong Lim wrote:
> I'm keen on that too. And hello from a sunny winter in QLD, Australia!
>
> Dumb newbie question - Why not get rid of the 'eurovision' grand
> finale IGF and work on localised and regional outputs and merge into
> the annual WSIS forum? A bit late to the whiteboard, but I've only
> just realised WSIS still runs beyond 10 year reviews!
>
> Also I may have cut off the rest of the mailing list.
>
> Kiki
>
> On Tue, 20 May 2025, 4:35 am Carlos Reyes via wsis20,
> <wsis20@icann.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Jimson and Nick.
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Following up on this discussion, please let us know if there are any
>> comments or suggestions to build out in “The IGF We Want” paper,
>> so that we can incorporate it into a next iteration.
>>
>> Best,
>> Carlos
>>
>> Carlos Reyes
>>
>> Senior Policy Director
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>
>> Washington, D.C. Engagement Center
>>
>> From: "Ashton-Hart, Nick" <nashtonhart@apcoworldwide.com>
>> Date: Thursday, May 8, 2025 at 5:46 PM
>> To: "Jimson Olufuye, PhD." <jolufuye@kontemporary.net.ng>, Carlos
>> Reyes <carlos.reyes@icann.org>
>> Cc: Kiki Fong Lim via wsis20 <wsis20@icann.org>
>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [wsis20] Re: Share Your Thoughts: The IGF We Want
>>
>>
>> Some good ideas.
>>
>> What I would put to you all though is we really need governments to
>> add the IGF into the UN budget. That hasn’t happened because too
>> many of them still don’t see enough of a value-add to going. Some
>> of that is because the IGF is in the way of their political
>> objectives vis a vis control of the Internet, but that doesn’t
>> cover them all.
>>
>> It seems to me this year is a good moment to ask ourselves – and
>> some of them – what a more valuable IGF would consist of for them
>> other than making it a negotiating forum.
>>
>> Nick Ashton-Hart
>> APCO
>> (m) +1 202 779 1072 [1]
>>
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>> On 5/8/25, 5:30 PM, "Jimson Olufuye, PhD. via wsis20"
>> <wsis20@icann.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Carlos,
>>
>> Yes. I subscribe to this.
>>
>> On the point of Financial Stability of "The IGF We Want":
>>
>> "*Develop a clear budget proposal for funding that is adequate to
>> ensure
>> the stability
>> and continuity of the IGF. Seek diverse funding from businesses,
>> civil
>> society,
>> governments, and technical community, with a targeted annual budget.
>> ▪ Encourage long-term (e.g. five year) contributing commitments
>> for
>> long-term
>> planning to pilot areas of need, and afford the opportunity to
>> assess
>> longer-term
>> budgetary and strategic needs."
>>
>> As a frontline Technical Community member, can we (ICANN) lead the
>> way
>> in providing some predictable funding mechanism for the IGF? How
>> about
>> appropriating a small percentage of the annual interest accruing
>> from
>> the Auction Proceeds to the IGF Stabilization Fund?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> JO
>>
>> ---
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>> On 2025-05-08 20:40, Carlos Reyes via wsis20 wrote:
>>> Hello, WSIS+20 Outreach Network.
>>>
>>> ICANN has developed a working draft of _The IGF We Want. _See PDF
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>>> several months.
>>>
>>> Please review it and share your thoughts and suggestions on this
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>>> discussion.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Carlos
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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