On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 03:47:06PM -0500, Greg Shatan wrote:
Section 3 is not unbounded. It is limited to the "DNS marketplace."
Ok. Please tell me, what is that marketplace? My employer (Dyn), for instance, sells DNS services to companies. We have many competitors. Dyn has been at this for about 15 years. For a significant chunk of that time, Dyn wasn't even a registrar (which Dyn only does for convenience, really -- it's not our main market). In any case, many of our customers use someone else for domain name registration and just use us for DNS. Indeed, for part of Dyn's history you couldn't do any domain name registration in any TLD with Dyn; instead, you registered a hostname under (say) dyndns.org and Dyn hooked up your dynamically-assigned IP to the DNS with a 5 minute TTL so that you could access your machine at home or wherever. Other companies are in this business too, through today. Under any plain-language meaning of the terms, those behaviours seem to be part of the DNS marketplace. But I claim ICANN has absolutely no business, of any kind, in that marketplace, and if you're going to argue that it does then I think we have a very deep disagreement about where ICANN's responsibilities begin and end. If we're this far apart on that fundamental question, then I think we have a practical problem of hammering out the answer. For practical reasons, I think, we therefore need to kick the question to WS 2 and use the minimal interpretation that is compatible with everyone's interpretation. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com