Full support for Jordans position here. As I have said previously inspection rights are in constant and normal use across other organisations, we don’t need to reinvent the wheel, we are not that special. -James On 06/01/2016, 5:31 p.m., "accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org on behalf of ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
I find myself in full agreement with this.
Tapani Tarvainen NCSG Chair
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 05:47:52PM +0100, Jordan Carter (jordan@internetnz.net.nz) wrote:
Hi all
Just a quick note to say I much prefer the lawyers' proposed approach on inspection rights, and do not support the Board's proposal.
As a matter of principle, the use of these rights is most likely to help inform a decision about using the other community powers. Using the same process as that which applies to those community powers is overkill: this *should* be a simpler process.
As a matter of practical effect, the requirement that an SO or AC agree the request will by itself prevent vexatious or over-frequent use. There is no chance of, say, the ccNSO Council, randomly & inappropriately deciding to exercise such a right.
So since the practical fears the Board noted aren't really valid, and since there is wide agreement as far as I can tell about the importance of these rights, in my opinion we should go with what our lawyers have suggested here, and be clear with the language in the next version of our document. That's the most workable and straight forward approach IMO.
best Jordan
On 6 January 2016 at 15:53, Alice Jansen <alice.jansen@icann.org> wrote:
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In preparation for your R*ecommendation 1 – Inspection Rights (first reading)* discussion scheduled for your call #75 - Thursday, 7 January 2016 (19:00 – 22:00 UTC) - please find attached the material to review. Please use this email thread to circulate any comments you may have in advance of the call.
Thank you
Mathieu, Thomas, León
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