Dear Co-Chairs, could you please explain to the gentleman from the IPC that it is NOT possible for ccTLD Managers, whether they are members of the ccNSO or not to become a "member organization" (as we are discussing here). Unless EACH and EVERY ccTLD Manager formally joins such organization such organization will not have any standing. At all. ccTLD Managers have a bilateral relationship with ICANN, if at all and this we MUST establish, as per my numerous requests. This is similar to the GAC, I really don't think that it will be even possible, unless by Multilateral Treaty between all states participating. But even if it happened, the very nature of how governments make decisions in international fora (very, very few governments allow other governments to "speak for", or commit it to something, on principle), make this unwieldy and unlikely. greetings, el On 2015-04-21 08:35, Greg Shatan wrote:
Chris,
The simple answer is that the SOACs as currently configured are not a very good vehicle for many of the enhanced powers we seek. Once you make them into members and give them legal personhood everything else becomes much easier.
However, you assumed no change to the SOACs, which made the answers much harder.
Greg
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Chris Disspain <ceo@auda.org.au <mailto:ceo@auda.org.au>> wrote:
Greg, All,
With respect, I think we are overcomplicating the issue. I simply want to gain a base line for the discussion about any changes necessary to achieve what we want. We agreed on jurisdiction that if we can get acceptable escalations and remedies without changing jurisdiction then we should leave well alone for now, I think we should apply the same principle here. I am clear what the lawyers recommend we do BUT I am not clear about what we can do or what compromises we need to make if we were to maintain the current structure. I think that is a key part of our deliberations.
Cheers,
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