Nope, I don't disagree - quite the opposite in respect of the way ICANN operates as an organisation. And so I hope that the work that has recently begun in working out how best to carry those obligations into ICANN's framework comes to a successful conclusion. The legal analysis we have is that there is no material change to ICANN's obligations arising from the end of the IANA functions contract (at least, that is how I read it). So - doing something now, if it is very light touch, is OK - but I believe it is a "nice to have" for Work Stream 1 rather than a necessity given the practical impact is so limited. Whether or not it happens WS1, 2 or more organically, I look forward to the commitment being undertaken appropriately when it happens -which I think it both should, and will. Ever yours, Jordan On 30 July 2015 at 22:46, Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net> wrote:
Imposing /any/ requirements on the policies on ccTLDs is outside of ICANN scope (unless you can show me authority otherwise). So this is actually a non-question and a straw-man argument.
But I would say that in carrying out the IANA contract ICANN should, indeed MUST, conduct itself to the highest standards of international norms.
Fair hearing. Right to free expression. Right to property. All controversial things like that.
You'd disagree?
On 30/07/15 11:34, Jordan Carter wrote:
Should ICANN impose global human rights norms on the policies of ccTLDs, in your view?
Jordan
On 30 July 2015 at 22:29, Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net <mailto:nigel@channelisles.net>> wrote:
With respect to Avri, whose position I very much apprecite on these matter I certainly would object to that formulation mostloudly since it appears extremely well drafted with the design of excluding all the other fundamental rights.
I'm not even going to make a list of what they are (you can look at hte Europan Union Charter at http://ec.europa.eu/justice/fundamental-rights/charter/index_en.htm)
But fair hearing and a right to private life are right in the middle of ICANN's work.
What is absolutely unacceptable is anything weaker than.
"Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will be committed to respect, and ensure the respect of, fundamental human rights".
On 30/07/15 09:16, Drazek, Keith wrote:
Hi Avri,
In order to tie your suggestion directly to the language in Secretary Strickling's April 2014 written congressional testimony (included in a prior email) and to reduce concerns about scope creep, would language along these lines be acceptable to you?
"Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will be committed to respect the fundamental human rights of the exercise of free expression and the free flow of information."
Speaking personally, I could probably support this formulation. To be clear, I have not discussed this with the RySG, but it's consistent with the requirements outlined by NTIA so I think it's certainly worth considering.
I'm not advocating including this in the Bylaws, but I'm not objecting to it either. However, if we don't reach consensus for adding to the Bylaws, I definitely think this is worth further consideration in WS2 and would support an explicit reference using this or similar language and timetable for doing so.
Regards, Keith
On Jul 30, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org <mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote:
Within its mission, ICANN will be committed to respect fundamental human rights in its operationsespecially with regard to the exercise of free expression or the free flow of information.
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