Hello all, The notes, recordings and transcripts for the WP-4 meeting on 28 August will be available here: https://community.icann.org/x/J4RYAw A copy of the notes and action items may be found below. Thank you. Kind regards, Brenda Action Items ACTION ITEM: Check wording and implications of without reservation - Without reservation does not encourage legal liability. We are making it complicated. Let's favor simple statements. ACTION ITEM: Leon to refine high level drafting to reflect today's discussion and to begin working on explanatory note to document how WP4 reached this wording. - Commitment to human rights won't cause any court cases if all this would be carefully further formulated in policies. ACTION ITEM: Share progress report with Subgroup to incorporate any additional feedback there may be ACTION ITEM: Leon to set up google doc Notes David McAuley on phone. Review of Draft High Level Objective WP4 discussed proposal received on list to modify text to not restrict it to United Nations Feedback: - Suggest defining high level commitment along the lines of what we have discussed for WS1 and fleshing it out as part of Work Stream 2. - We need to refine wording put together. - Do not understand that we give support without reservation to United Nations principles. It would be better to confirm support for International Human Rights and leave it to WS2 to define what we are going to use to operationalize that (UN compact, etc). Open it up to wider set of documents - Suggested language: HEREBY AFFIRMS its support without reservation for internationally recognized fundamental human rights, and intends to develop ..... --> Concerned about support without reservation. What could that imply? It could be a point of discussion for the group - Stick to paragraph 151 - Do not think putting commitment to human rights will be risk of law suit for ICANN - Need to explore options and caveats around meaning of without reservations - Without reservation is superfluous ACTION ITEM: Check wording and implications of without reservation - Without reservation does not encourage legal liability. We are making it complicated. Let's favor simple statements. ACTION ITEM: Leon to refine high level drafting to reflect today's discussion and to begin working on explanatory note to document how WP4 reached this wording. - Commitment to human rights won't cause any court cases if all this would be carefully further formulated in policies. --> We have common understanding that it would not be opening door to lawsuits ACTION ITEM: Share progress report with Subgroup to incorporate any additional feedback there may be ACTION ITEM: Leon to set up google doc - What is the procedure to reach consensus/what are the next steps? --> Within 1 or 2 calls, we could have product for group to review/discuss - is there any use in possibly looking at slightly rewording article 4 of the articles of incorporation to make a more explicit reference to HR? --> That is a possibility. - Changing the art of incorporation entails another process (and was not included in draft report of CCWG) Documents Presented * <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56132647/Human%20Rights%20s... 0Aug.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1440772825330&api=v2> Human Rights subgroup timeline_24 Aug.pdf * <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56132647/Human%20Rights%20B... per%20%281%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1440772776026&api=v2> Human Rights Briefing_Discussion paper (1).pdf