I love the way you keep calling them 'chattering organisations'. A truly accurate description. On 11/07/16 11:03, Arasteh wrote:
Dear Mathieu, Dear All I fully agree with the course of actions that you proposed As for the member/ participants from CCWG,I suggest either 5 Members from 5 ICANN geographical region or 5 members from 5 chattering organisations Regards Kavouss
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On 11 Jul 2016, at 08:47, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>> wrote:
Thank you Bernie, I am expanding the recipient list to the leadership.
My comments on the summary, which should form the basis of a set of slides for tomorrow’s meeting
In this context the CCWG is proposing the following CCWG WS2 Procurement Process for Independent Legal Counsel:
• Establish a legal committee to filter, analyze and approve requests from the CCWG-Accountability WS2 to use independent legal counsel – this committee would be composed of the CCWG Co-Chairs with the participation of a representative of ICANN legal.
ðYes to legal committee. I have a different view of composition. I would say co chairs + 3-5 CCWG members or participants (same as previous legal committee). Icann Legal is a provider to this group and should participate but not be a “member”. Sidley and Adler should have the same status.
ðBenefits of the committee : ensure clarity of requests + determine which legal group is best suited to respond.
ðRapporteurs of the groups presenting requests would also be invited to attend
• All legal requests from WS2 sub-groups would have to be properly framed clearly indicating what the question is and why legal advice is being required before being submitted to the CCWG Legal Committee.
ðShould also mention that “independent legal counsel is engaged only when a legal issue is raised and a specific answer is required to a tight and specific legal question,”
ðRequests would be shared on the Legal Committee list **before** meetings so that lawyers can prepare clarifying questions and estimates.
• The CCWG Legal Committee would review all such properly formulated requests on a regular basis to determine their admissibility.
• If the request is admissible the CCWG Legal Committee would inquire if ICANN Legal could provide an answer to the request. If ICANN legal can provide the answer the CCWG Legal Committee will request that ICANN legal do so.
ðI tried to express my concerns with that “first right of refusal” approach during the call with Icann Legal. I believe it should be the CCWG Legal Committee role to determine which firm it would go to, based on the firms skills, costs and the requirement for “independent” advice.
• If ICANN legal cannot provide the answer, or the answer provided by ICANN legal is judged insufficient by the requester, the CCWG Legal Committee will identify the best external legal resources for this type of work and request a submission for this. If the CCWG Legal Committee deems a submission reasonable for the work requested, it can authorize the selected contractor to proceed with the work with the PCST handling the administration of the request for the CCWG.
ðSee above.
I welcome any other thoughts.
Best
Mathieu
*De :*Bernard Turcotte [mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com] *Envoyé :* dimanche 10 juillet 2016 21:35 *À :* Thomas Rickert; Mathieu Weill; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía *Objet :* CCWG - proposed legal cost control mechanisms
All,
We know we have to get this done so here is the first formal shot at this as following on from our call with Sam this week and then further discussions I had with Thomas on this topic.
Please have a look and provide your comments ASAP.
The idea would be the run this by Sam on Monday if we can get agreement and then external lawyers and then wrap it up prior to the end of the month which is our deadline.
Cheers.
B.
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