Folks, The challenge here is that there are 7 reviews scheduled for next year. The community simply doesn’t have the bandwidth to do them all well. I think I agree with Avri that we don’t suspend the notion of review because of our work but we DO need to think about volunteer burnout. Two thoughts on the consequences. First, I find it frustrating that we think of reviews as impetus for implementation. That’s a total waste. We need to figure out some other mechanism to maintain momentum that isn’t a full blown review. Some kind of IAG or something would be better. The whole point of a review is to see if the changes had the desired outcome, not to simply restate the need for the changes. That’s like hammering a nail with a bus instead of a hammer. Can’t we find a more precise mechanism for implementation monitoring and pressure? Second, in my mind, accountability is less about timing than about critical path. In other words, I can see pushing off reviews of the new gTLD program as long as we push off the start of a new round. Given the supply driven nature of this marketplace, the world can afford a delay and we can get it right instead of rushing. Just my two cents. Jonathan From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Raul Gutierrez Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:13 AM To: Mathieu Weill Cc: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] FYI - Public Comment on AoC and Organizational Reviews Dear Mathieu! What do you mean by stall? Stoping them? I couldn't agree less. There are still recommendations of ATRT2 that have not been implemented yet. Stopping the AoC would be a very negative message if we are looking for a permanent culture of accountability inside the Corporation. Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez ISOC Costa Rica Chapter skype carlos.raulg +506 8837 7176 (New Phone number!!!!) ________ Apartado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>> wrote: Dear Colleagues, A quick way to contribute to this call for comment would be to to submit a CCWG comment saying : stall the AoC reviews until approval of the new Bylaws which will be related to these reviews. Same for organizational reviews to avoid potential conflicting priorities with the SO/AC accountability discussion. Icann could, as a consequence, allocate more resources to supporting our work ;-) I am conscious this is very last minute, and don't want to rrush any decision. Unless there is clear support or other views getting traction within our group, we will most certainly abstain. best Mathieu Le 24/06/2015 19:02, Alice Jansen a écrit : Dear all, For your information --- A session on AoC and Organizational Reviews: Supporting ICANN Accountability<http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-aoc-org-reviews> took place this morning at ICANN53. This session covered Reviews defined by the Affirmation of Commitments (AoC) and Organizational Reviews, mandated by ICANN's Bylaws. Topics included: proposed schedule for upcoming reviews, proposed process and operational improvements to enhance efficiency and effectiveness of reviews, implementation status of recommendations from the Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT2), the Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review (SSR) and the "WHOIS Policy" Review (WHOIS). Please note that community feedback is currently being sought on a proposed schedule and process, including operational improvements, for Reviews mandated by the Affirmation of Commitments (AoC Reviews) and the ICANN Bylaws (Organizational Reviews). The request for the community is based on both appreciating the community's workload and the timing of several Reviews in FY2016. The public comment on Proposed Schedule and Process/Operational Improvements for AoC and Organizational Reviews<https://www.icann.org/public-comments/proposed-aoc-org-reviews-process-2015-...> will close on 2 July. 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