Suggested tweak - It means that the parties who entered into existing contracts intended (and intend) to be bound by those agreements. It means that neither a contracting party nor anyone else should be able to bring a case that any provisions of such agreements on their face, are ultra vires. It does not, however, modify any contracting party's right to challenge the other party¹s interpretation of that language. It does not modify the right of any person or entity materially affected (as defined in the Bylaws) by an action or inaction in violation ICANN¹s Bylaws to seek redress through an IRP. Nor does it modify the scope of ICANN's Mission. -----Original Message----- From: Mueller, Milton L [mailto:milton@gatech.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 3:02 PM To: Burr, Becky; Silver, Bradley; David Post Cc: Thomas Rickert; Accountability Cross Community Subject: RE: [CCWG-ACCT] Minority statements inclusion in report Acceptable to me, thanks. David? Malcolm? --MM
-----Original Message-----
From: Burr, Becky [mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz]
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 12:29 PM
To: Silver, Bradley; Mueller, Milton L; David Post
Cc: Thomas Rickert; Accountability Cross Community
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Minority statements inclusion in report
I have no problem providing additional guidance to the drafters:
What does it mean that the language of these agreements are
grandfathered?
It means that the parties who entered into existing contracts
intended (and
intend) to be bound by those agreements. It means that neither a
contracting party or anyone else should be able to bring a free
standing case that the language, without context, is ultra vires. It
does not, however, modify any contracting party¹s right to challenge
the other party¹s interpretation of that language. It does not modify
the right of any party materially affected (as defined in the Bylaws)
by an action or inaction in violation ICANN¹s Bylaws to seek redress
through an IRP. Nor does it modify the scope of ICANN¹s Mission.
J. Beckwith Burr
Neustar, Inc. / Deputy
General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer
1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C. 20006
Office: +1.202.533.2932 Mobile: +1.202.352.6367 / neustar.biz
On 12/1/15, 12:18 PM, "Silver, Bradley"
<Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com<mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com>>
wrote:
Milton - who is the "other party" in your suggested amendment below?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mueller, Milton L [mailto:milton@gatech.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 12:13 PM
To: Burr, Becky; David Post; Silver, Bradley
Cc: Thomas Rickert; Accountability Cross Community
Subject: RE: [CCWG-ACCT] Minority statements inclusion in report
-----Original Message-----
It means that the parties who entered into existing contracts
intended (and
intend) to be bound by those agreements. It means that neither a
contracting party or anyone else should be able to bring a free
standing case that the language, without context, is ultra vires.
It does not, however, modify any contracting party¹s right to
challenge the other party¹s interpretation of that language. Nor
does it modify the scope of ICANN¹s Mission.
This is reassuring, Becky, but I want it to be clear.
Are you willing to add to the current report the following language:
The grandfathering statement, however, cannot be used to modify the
scope
of ICANN's mission nor to modify any contracting party¹s right to
challenge the other party¹s interpretation of contractual language if
they think enforcement actions are expanding the scope of ICANN's
mission.
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