Infringing on Article 5 goes right along with one of the standard ICANN methodologies - no good deed shall go unpunished (or so it seems at times). For those who have not done their homework, Article 5 is "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment." Alan At 06/01/2016 08:55 AM, Nigel Roberts wrote:
I'd still like to know which Human Rights ICANN is thinking of infringing?
The more the CCWG drags on, the more I looking at Art. 5 UDHR . .
On 06/01/16 13:51, Niels ten Oever wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256
If you would permit me, I have a small process question:
The proposed text on human rights in the CCWG report has already been reviewed by lawyers (at the time it was prepared by WP4). Were these the same lawyers that will answer the proposed question underneath? If so, have they not checked for these risks the last time? If so, this could save us some time.
Best,
Niels
On 01/06/2016 02:41 PM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to thank the co-chairs for their suggestion at the end of yesterdays call. Please allow me to make some suggestions to the language:
***
In their comment to the 3rd CCWG draft report the ICANN Board has raised concerns that the proposed inclusion of language in the bylaws with respect to human rights might lead to an increased risk of ICANN being exposed to legal claims or even law suits.
We would appreciate if you could provide us with a brief assessment whether the inclusion of these bylaws would increase the risk of ICANN being exposed to legal claims or even law suits vis a vis the current situation (taking into account the existing obligations under article 4 of ICANNs articles of incorporation), and if so, how such risk could be mitigated.
***
Best,
Niels
On 01/06/2016 02:13 PM, Thomas Rickert wrote:
All, as discussed during yesterday's CCWG call, please find below the draft certification language to be sent to the lawyers with respect to the human rights recommendation and the Board's concerns about legal risks. I plan to certify at 14.00 UTC tomorrow.
*** The ICANN Board has raised concerns that the proposed inclusion of language in the bylaws with respect to human rights might lead to an increased risk of ICANN being exposed to legal claims or even law suits.
We would appreciate if you could provide us with a brief assessment and suggestions on how such risk can be mitigated. It is our understanding that human rights have been indirectly referred to in ICANN's bylaws already, so please also indicate whether (according to your assessment) the language that shall be added to the bylaws according to our 3rd report is establishing a new risk or an increased risk, if any. ***
Kind regards, Thomas Rickert
_______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
_______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
- -- Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
Article 19 www.article19.org
PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2
iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWjRvcAAoJEAi1oPJjbWjpiL4H/08f9uvS7Re/f6pxH06Hbjei aWAXLigeqlsKdYJQGPRhe5hOYpvw48huNC6ed6wbfjHgqPbHyHzAjThsGu4z5GB5 5NQYufmBtjvgs2j2n6MiwJFQx1cQVv54gwe6tPTWG1G1qZGc9uat2eFY4G609lSi DImT1FTnuGcTOuNdEX6sWJsx+IAcgKLYbs9yXUzAHeUIX0WeKFdbwxBMbvMHpfVX 0XZvfz9t8QPUD7hhaApWio34NV9h9nTw17/F4kg0oNlZLT4l7RTxSH4vgTI7RD5Y yNa/RZriZAOhEyODuyjpsCbjetg/kReol9RGEHKt5LO079HwTZN4LO4TvTd/qKQ= =vdV0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community