I took Bruce to mean that the ICG should task the CWG (& CCWG) to have draft language ready for any implementation elements that require amendments to the Bylaws, and include these in their proposal. Thanks- J. From: Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com<mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2015 at 10:54 To: Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au<mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>> Cc: "accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Inquiry from ICG Regarding Proposed Bylaws Amendments Bruce Thank you for message. I am afford to disagree with you 1. that it is neither the duty nor responsibility of ICG , CWG and CCWG to draft modified Bylaws 2 . that CCWG is considering to review its initial proposal in the light of received comments and its conclusions of f2f meeting on 19 June 3. Once the situation becomes clear (after receiving and considering all resulting from second public comments) and the availability of Final proposal, Legal Department of ICANN with or without assistance of external legal Counsel(s) should proceed with the required preparation of Bylaws( standard and fundamental) . It is therefore totally outside mandate of either ICG ,CWG and CCWG to be engaged with such a delicate and sensitive work Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone On 20 Jun 2015, at 09:36, Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au<mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>> wrote: Hello Keith, Starting to think through the timelines, I think it will be important that the ICG and CWG can start working on a consolidated set of changes to the bylaws. I have also had some initial discussions with staff to ensure appropriate staff support for this process. My suggestion would be that as soon as possible the working groups produce a consolidated set of proposed bylaws changes that can be put out for public comment, and refinement. These consolidated changes can then be submitted to the NTIA along with the proposals. Regards, Brue Tonkin From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Drazek, Keith Sent: Friday, 19 June 2015 10:02 PM To: accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Inquiry from ICG Regarding Proposed Bylaws Amendments Dear Co-Chairs, In our capacity as ICG Liaisons to the CCWG-Accountability, Kavouss and I have been asked to request feedback concerning the projected timing and procedure for finalizing proposed bylaws changes. As you know, the CCWG and the ICG each received an inquiry from NTIA regarding projected timelines for proposal completion, to include implementation. This request is intended to help inform the ICG's response to NTIA. As one of the three operational communities submitting proposals to the ICG, the CWG-Transition has identified the need for a fundamental bylaw amendment to secure the PTI structure. For the purpose of public consideration and comment, the ICG is wondering if there's an opportunity to group the CWG-Transition proposed bylaw amendment text with the bylaw amendments anticipated by the CCWG-Accountability. A few specific questions: 1. At what stage in the work of the CCWG-Accountability will proposed bylaws amendment text be published for public comment? 2. Will the CCWG-Accountability develop specific text for the proposed bylaws amendments, or will that be conducted during a later implementation phase? 3. Should we consider batching all proposed bylaws changes into a single process, or conduct them separately? I welcome any further comment by Kavouss. Thanks and regards, Keith Drazek "This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately." _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community