I am not often in agreement with George on many substantive issues :-) But on this issue of process he is 100% accurate. A =partial= catalog of things we are now considering that are substantially different from where we were the day before Dublin started include: Shift from Member to Designator Mission Statement with or without limitations on contractual obligations GAC engagement and ST-18 And, of course, today's addition: Availability/non-availability of SO-specific veto or proposal authority. I get, completely, the need for us to not dally. But these issues are so significant (I would say they lie at the very core of what we are doing) that they MUST be resolved now. They cannot be pushed to WS2 and they cannot be hurried any faster. Add into this the prospect that the next public comment period will span the December holiday time (admittedly, a cultural circumstance specific to only some of the Members and Participants) and we gravely risk the credibility of this process by rushing it. My limited perception is that a major process foul is the most likely way to have our report rejected -- either by the chartering organizations or the NTIA Paul Paul Rosenzweig paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066 Link to my PGP Key -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Roberts [mailto:nigel@channelisles.net] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:39 PM To: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Comments on the third draft proposal George is on the money. Time has run out. I suggest that the inclusiveness and legitimacy of the accountability process has been fundamentally jeopardized, if not completely destroyed. Some good work has been done, but I submit that the artificial deadlines and the way that fundamentally new concepts have been introduced 'out of thin air' have significantly prejudiced the chances of success, possibly fatally. _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community