that was also my understanding Jorge Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 07.01.2016 um 18:45 schrieb Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr@neustar.biz<mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz>>: Some comments inline in BLUE J. Beckwith Burr Neustar, Inc. / Deputy General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer 1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C. 20006 Office: +1.202.533.2932 Mobile: +1.202.352.6367 / neustar.biz<http://www.neustar.biz> From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 12:34 PM To: "Schaefer, Brett" <Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org<mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org>> Cc: Milton L Mueller <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>>, Becky Burr <becky.burr@neustar.biz<mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz>>, "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>>, Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>>, Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Deck for Meeting #75 Mission Statement discussion On 7 Jan 2016 5:32 PM, "Schaefer, Brett" <Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org<mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org>> wrote:
Even then, the Board must try in good faith to find a compromise solution. This potentially could include GAC advice that goes beyond or is contrary to ICANN’s scope and mission.
SO: This is correct and such possibility is applicable in any decision of the board, irrespective of whether it's GAC advice or not. No?
The bylaw should clarify that Board-approved GAC advice, even if adopted by consensus, is subject to IRP appeal.” ALL BOARD ACTION AND INACTION IN VIOLATION OF THE BYLAWS CAN BE CHALLENGED THROUGH AN IRP BY COMMUNITY OR SOMEONE MATERIALLY AFFECTED. FULL STOP. NO CLARIFICATION IS NEEDED. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS CHALLENGING GAC ADVICE – YOU CANNOT DO THAT THROUGH AN IRP. BUT YOU CAN CHALLENGE THE BOARD’S IMPLEMENTATION IF THAT IMPLEMENTATION CAUSES ICANN TO EXCEED ITS MISSION. THAT’S THE CASE RIGHT NOW. THERE IS NO CHANGE.
SO: Is there a section of the current proposal that makes board's decision on GAC advice immune to community powers? (with IRP being an escalation path). I will like to see reference to that specific part as I have not seen such yet. The community powers is based on board's action/inaction so I don't understand what clarification is required when no exceptions (in this context) were made in the first place. Regards
This is also why we recommend restricting GAC participation in the Empowered Community to an advisory role as long as it retains this power.
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Subject: RE: Deck for Meeting #75 Mission Statement discussion
But what if the Board cannot muster a 2/3 vote against GAC advice that goes beyond ICANN’s Mission and Core Values?
Then we have the equivalent of a Constitutional crisis, with the GAC in a position as a member of the empowered community to object to accountability escalation attempts related to the situation.
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Yes, that should be clear.
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From: Burr, Becky [mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz<mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz>] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 11:06 AM To: Schaefer, Brett; Mueller, Milton L; Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>; accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Cc: acct-staff@icann.org<mailto:acct-staff@icann.org> Subject: Re: Deck for Meeting #75 Mission Statement discussion Importance: High
IMHO, the GAC is not bound by ICANN’s Mission and Core Values. It can issue any Advice it likes. But ICANN can only implement GAC Advice in a manner that is consistent with ICANN’s Mission and Core Values.
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From: <Schaefer>, Brett <Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org<mailto:Brett.Schaefer@heritage.org>> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 10:48 AM To: "Mueller, Milton L" <milton@gatech.edu<mailto:milton@gatech.edu>>, "Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>" <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>>, Becky Burr <becky.burr@neustar.biz<mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz>>, Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> Cc: "acct-staff@icann.org<mailto:acct-staff@icann.org>" <acct-staff@icann.org<mailto:acct-staff@icann.org>> Subject: RE: Deck for Meeting #75 Mission Statement discussion
Or, perhaps, that GAC advice should not be bound by ICANN’s mission and core values?
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From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Mueller, Milton L Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:22 AM To: Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>; Becky.Burr@neustar.biz<mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz>; accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Cc: acct-staff@icann.org<mailto:acct-staff@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Deck for Meeting #75 Mission Statement discussion
Jorge:
Can you please clarify what the implications are of this:
The GAC further expects that changes to ICANN’s mission and core values should
not constrain the Board from accepting and implementing GAC advice. In
MM: Do you mean to imply that there should be no limits of ICANN’s mission?
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