Thanks Phil!!! It’s a honor to have been elected and a privilege to have another chance to serve our community! Kind regards, León
El 27/02/2017, a las 19:29, Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> escribió:
Now that Leon has just been elected to the Board by ALAC, I withdraw my prior support and object to this outrageous boondoggle! ;-)
Seriously -- Congratulations to Leon!!!!
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-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Roberts Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 6:34 AM To: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement and Process
No, no more rules or debates on the merits, please!!
ICANN travel policy is flexible enough to cope already.
This was a perfectly reasonable request, handled properly through existing procedures.
We really don't all need to opine about a routine matter.
On 27/02/17 11:10, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello,
As much as I like the idea, I would think setting/updating a/the travel policy globally would be more appropriate; this group is just one out of the many other current/future groups who may find themselves in similar situation. Perhaps this can be a recommendation to the Board (or whoever is charge of ICANN travel policy)
Regards
On 27 Feb 2017 17:48, "Tapani Tarvainen" <ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info>> wrote:
I definitely agree that business class is warranted in this case - having to chair a session after 24h+ travel in economy class sounds nightmarish.
But I also see Nigel's point. Perhaps it'd be possible to come up with a rule, something along the lines that if the shortest available flight path for the chair of a meeting exceeds, say, 20 hours, it justifies business class flights.
Tapani
On Feb 27 10:26, Nigel Roberts (nigel@channelisles.net <mailto:nigel@channelisles.net>) wrote:
Whilst I 100% agree with the previous contributors regarding the utility of the proposal (and hope this puts the tin lid on that discussion), and I also understand the reason that Leon put this out to the wider group, possibly to forestall any accusations of junketing, I am mildly uncomfortable with what seems to me to be a 'voting' mentaily on this.
To my simplistic mind, ICANN is a business. (Specifically, a non-profit business).
Where a particular expenditure advances the corporation's interests, it SHOULD be undertaken. Where it does not, not.
In this case, I would have simply preferred Leon to obtain the agreement of the fund-holder or gate-keeper (the other co-chairs?) and use the facility to promote the work-to-be-done, without provoking this great chorus of metoos.
The reason I say this, is that in the future, this procedure if it becomes de rigeur, might discourage participation whereby some people may be inhibited from asking for necessary facilities if it has to be 'approved' by every Member and Participant, or at least commented upon in the name of faux-transparency.
Seriously, ICANN is a billion dollar business.
Let's worry about doing the work, eh?
Oh, yes, in case it wasn't clear.
"I also agree with the proposed expenditure".
On 27/02/17 10:05, Lori Schulman wrote:
Dear All,
I agree that Leon should be accorded the exception to the travel rules and be offered a business class ticket.
Lori
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CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement
and Process
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CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement
and Process
Dear Co-Chairs,
It seems that everybody agree for the upgrading to Business Class and one additional day of acco0mmodation for Leon.
Pls kindly decide on the matter favorably and put an end to this string
Regards
Kavouss
2017-02-24 18:58 GMT+01:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com> <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>>>:
I would also note that this itinerary is an absolute minimum 20 hours gate-to-gate, and more likely 24 hours or so (which is close to 30 hours door-to-door) or even more....
Greg
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Agree with Phil, assuming that fits into Leon's schedule. Sometimes the extra day isn't personally available, even though it is always desirable.
Greg
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com <mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> <mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com <mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>>> wrote:
+1 to Phil's suggestion
Regards
On Feb 24, 2017 4:47 PM, "Phil Corwin" <psc@vlaw-dc.com <mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com> <mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com <mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>>> wrote:
Not objecting to the request, but noting this statement –
Taking into account this situation and the fact that I will be chairing our face to face meeting just hours after I land in South Africa
Given that, as we all know, air travel is susceptible to unanticipated delays, if ICANN is going to incur the extra expense of business class perhaps it would be better for Leon to book an earlier flight itinerary. Even if it meant an extra night of accommodations, it would minimize the possibility of a flight delay that prevented Leon from chairing the meeting.
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*Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT]
CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement
and Process
Dear Co-Chairs,
The situation is fully understandable and seems
no one
object to the ligitiate and convincing request of
Leon.
Regards
Kavouss
2017-02-24 14:19 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr
<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>>>:
Dear Colleagues,
For transparency, please be aware of the below
specific
request by Leon Sanchez regarding travel funding for Johannesburg.
Considering the proposed arrangement and the fact
that
Leon will have to (co-)chair our F2F meeting on Day 1, we are
prepared to
grant the request, unless the group objects.
Thank you for your attention. Best Thomas & Mathieu Co-chairs
-----Message d'origine----- De : León Felipe Sánchez Ambía [mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx
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Envoyé : mercredi 15 février 2017 15:49 À : Thomas Rickert (thomas@rickert.net
<mailto:thomas@rickert.net>
<mailto:thomas@rickert.net
<mailto:thomas@rickert.net>>); Mathieu Weill
Cc : Accountability Staff Objet : Request for travel exception
Dear Thomas and Mathieu,
As the period to request travel support for our
meeting
in Johannesburg gets closer I would like to kindly ask for your
consideration
for an exception to our travel support rules given that traveling from Mexico to South Africa requires a double Intercontinental trip in any way I travel (either through Europe or South America).
Taking into account this situation and the fact
that I
will be chairing our face to face meeting just hours after I land in South Africa, I would kindly request that business class travel is authorized for this one time. Please feel free to share this request as widely as you consider for transparency purposes.
I thank your for your consideration in advance.
Best regards,
León
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*De la part de* Bernard Turcotte *Envoyé :* vendredi 17 février 2017 23:21 *À :* Accountability Cross Community *Objet :* [CCWG-ACCT]
CCWG-Accountability-WS2-TravelSupport-ICANN59Johannesburg-25June2017-Announcement
and Process
The body of this email contains:
* The announcement for Travel Funding
Applications for
the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Face to Face at
ICANN59
on 25 June 2017 * The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Travel Funding Policy * The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Travel Funding Application Form (Applications must be
submitted by
23:59 UTC Sunday 19 March 2017)
All,
The CCWG-Accountability
-WS2
has travel funding for some Members and
Rapporteurs to
attend the Face to Face meetings held the day
prior to
an ICANN meeting who do not have any other funding available to them to attend.
Members are those individuals that are specifically appointed by the chartering SO/ACs to the CCWG-Accountability - the list of Members can be
found
at
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59640780 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59640780> .
Rapporteurs are those listed as such on the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Wiki for specific sub-groups located at
https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/WS2+SubGroup+Topics <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/WS2+SubGroup+Topics>.
Please see the attached policy for details regarding this funding.
If you are not a Member or a Rapporteur, please
do not
apply as there is a very limited number of seats
available.
The next Face to Face meeting of the
CCWG-accountability
will be held on 25 June 2017 in conjunction with
ICANN
59 in Johannesburg South Africa.
Those Members and Rapporteurs wishing to be
considered
for travel funding should fill out the attached
form and
submit it by
23:59 UTC Sunday 19 March 2017 to
Acct-Staff@icann.org <mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org>
<mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org
<mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org>>.
The funding is for the Face- to- Face meeting
of the CCWG-Accountability WS2
, which can include airfare, hotel and a per-diem allocation for meals for attending the Face to Face meeting only (and not the full ICANN meeting).
However,
in analyzing the requests the
CCWG-Accountability-WS2
Co-Chairs will consider requests for partial funding (such as only an additional day of hotel and per
diem to
attend the Face to Face meeting) in order to maximize participation. As such Members are encouraged to only apply for what they need to allow for funding as many Members and Rapporteurs as possible.
The final decisions on travel funding will be
made by the
CCWG-Accountability-WS2
Co-Chairs and published on the
CCWG-Accountability WS2
wiki at
https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Supportwithin <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Supportwithin>
7 days of the application period closing (a
confirmation
of the posting will be sent to the CCWG email list).
Those being supported will then be contacted by ICANN Travel using the standard ICANN travel funding
process
to arrange details.
Should you have any questions please do not
hesitate to
contact the CCWG-Accountability support staff at Acct-Staff@icann.org
<mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org> <mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org <mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org>>.
Bernard Turcotte
ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
*Updated Process for Expressions of Interest
requesting
CCWG Travel Support (December 2016)*
The current budgeted amount to support the work
of CCWG
WS2 members allocates travel support (travel,
hotel and
per diem) for an amount equivalent to 20 appointed members or rapporteurs to attend only a CCWG face-to-face meeting. The Co-Chairs have the
authority
to re-allocate this amount – this could include supporting requests for partial funding to allow
them to
maximize the number of members attending (e.g. the requestor may ask for any or all of the following: airfare, and/or hotel and/or per diem) or to
extend the
stay of some key participants.
You are eligible for travel support from the CCWG
if you
are an officially appointed member of WS2 from a chartering SO or AC or if you are officially
listed as a
Rapporteur or Co-Rapporteur on the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Wiki located at
https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/WS2+-+Enhancing+ICANN+Accountabilit... <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/WS2+-+Enhancing+ICANN+Accountabilit...>.
Travel support arrangements will follow Constituency Travel Guidelines located at:
https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home <https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home>
The CCWG travel support slots will be allocated in priority as follows:
CCWG-Accountability Co-Chairs – 3 slots (or
equivalent
amount)
CCWG-Accountability Chartering Organization Appointed Members
CCWG-Accountability Rapporteurs
CCWG appointed Members and Rapporteurs requesting consideration by the Co-Chairs for travel support to attend a face-to-face meeting must complete and
submit
the travel request form by the stipulated deadline in order to be considered for funding.
NOTE: In evaluating the applications for travel
funding
the Co-Chairs will consider applicant's attendance to CCWG meetings and their contributions to the ongoing work as well as the availability of alternate
funding to
the applicant.
CCWG Staff support will send out an announcement regarding the application for travel support and deadline for application submissions as soon as a face-to-face meeting has been approved.
Applications to
request travel support are located at:
https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Support <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Support>
Completed forms can be sent to
Acct-Staff@icann.org <mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org>
<mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org
<mailto:Acct-Staff@icann.org>>for submission to the
Co-Chairs for review and approval.
All applicants for CCWG WS2 travel support will be posted on the CCWG WS2 wiki under Travel Support.
Names
will be listed REQUESTED and once approved will be listed as APPROVED for travel support including
the type
of support that is approved.
The Co-Chairs will review the applications received, including the requests for partial support, and determine the list of approved CCWG members who will receive travel funding.
The CCWG approved travel support list will be
submitted
to ICANN Constituency Travel for processing
according to
community travel guidelines.
The approved list of funded CCWG members will be
posted
on the WS2 wiki at
https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Suppor <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Suppor>
<https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Support <https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Support>>_t_
===========================================================
CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Supported Travel Request Form
You are eligible for travel support from the CCWG-Accountability only if you are an officially appointed member of WS2 from a chartering SO or
AC or if
you are an officially listed Rapporteur for a WS2
sub-group.
The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Co-Chairs will review the applications received, including the requests for partial support, and determine the list of
approved CCWG
members who will receive travel funding.
The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 approved travel
support list
will be submitted to ICANN Constituency Travel for processing according to community travel guidelines
Travel support arrangements will follow Constituency travel guidelines located at:
https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home <https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home>
CCWG-Accountability-WS2 appointed Members or
rapporteurs
requesting consideration by the Co-Chairs for travel support to attend a face-to-face meeting must
complete
and submit the travel request form by the stipulated deadline in order to be considered for funding.
Applicant Identification
========================
Name:
Chartering Org or Rapporteur for which WS2
Group:
Email address:
Date of Request:
Other sources of support
========================
Please indicate if you are receiving travel
support from
another organization to attend the ICANN meeting
I am receiving support from another organization (yes or no):
If you are not receiving support from another organization, please proceed to “Support
requested from
CCWG-Accountability”. If you are receiving support, please provide the information requested below:
Name of the Organization(s) providing the
support:
Indicate type of support and how many days the
support
is provided (BY FUNDING ORGANIZATION):
Airfare (yes or no):
Hotel (# days):
Per Diem (# days):
Support requested from CCWG-Accountability
===========================================
Please indicate the type of travel support (including the number of days) you are seeking from the CCWG for WS2 -please remember this is only for attending
the Face
to Face meeting and is not for the entire ICANN
meeting.
Airfare (yes or no):
Hotel (# days):
Per Diem (# days):
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