CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Plenary-20171018-AgendaV1.2
All, Given we do have the Transparency report and that we do not expect to raise significant issues with the plenary we have modified the agenda to have the first reading of the Transparency final report after the second reading of the Ombuds draft recommendations. We would close out readings with Human Rights and Jurisdiction (new agenda below). This would allow us to have a maximum of time for Jurisdiction while allowing other reports to be considered by the plenary. Given we do have to complete a first reading of the Jurisdiction report at the 18 October plenary we would also like to advise everyone that if necessary we will extend the meeting to allow us to complete this. Currently the meeting is scheduled for 19:00 to 21:00 UTC but we would ask plenary participants to allow for an extra 15 minutes if required. Thank you. Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 ====================================================== *Agenda for the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Plenary of 18 October 19:00 to 21:15 UTC* 1. Introduction, update to SOIs, reminder on standards of behavior 2. Review of Agenda 3. Administration 3.1. ICANN 60. 3.1.1. Face to Face plenary is Friday 27 October 8:30 to 17:00 local time (04:30 – 13:00 UTC) 3.1.2. Hight interest presentation on WS2 Monday 30 October 10:30 - 12:00 local time (06:30 – 08:00 UTC). 3.1.2.1. *Note we need to have 1 rapporteur per sub-group present at this session to answer questions from the community*. 3.1.2.2. Rapporteurs please confirm your presence to staff by Thursday 19 October 23:59 UTC. 3.1.2.3. In cases where there are co-rapporteurs please confirm to staff which co-rapporteur will be delegated to answer questions with your confirmation of presence. 3.2. ICANN 61 3.2.1. Reminder we will hold the usual pre-conference face to face on 9 March 3.2.2. Reminder of funding rules. 3.2.3. Confirmation of travel funding dates: 3.2.3.1. Begin accepting applications Thursday 12 October 3.2.3.2. Close applications Sunday 19 November 23:59 UTC 3.2.3.3. Submit final list to ICANN Monday 27 November 4. Legal Committee Update 4.1. Question sent to ICANN Legal on Ombudsman recommendation 8 regarding the independence of the proposed Ombuds Advisory Panel (questions sent directly to ICANN legal on approval of Co-chairs). 5. Second reading of the draft recommendation of the Ombuds sub-group 6. First reading of the final recommendations of the Transparency sub-group 7. Second reading of the final recommendations of the Human Rights sub-group. 8. First Reading of the draft recommendation of the Jurisdiction sub-group. 9. AOB 10. Next Plenaries 10.1. Friday 27 October face to face – all day 11. Adjournment
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 09:47 PM, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Given we do have the Transparency report and that we do not expect to raise significant issues with the plenary we have modified the agenda to have the first reading of the Transparency final report after the second reading of the Ombuds draft recommendations. We would close out readings with Human Rights and Jurisdiction (new agenda below).
This would allow us to have a maximum of time for Jurisdiction while allowing other reports to be considered by the plenary.
Given we do have to complete a first reading of the Jurisdiction report at the 18 October plenary we would also like to advise everyone that if necessary we will extend the meeting to allow us to complete this. Currently the meeting is scheduled for 19:00 to 21:00 UTC but we would ask plenary participants to allow for an extra 15 minutes if required.
2100 UTC is 0230 past midnight in India.... This timing means that quite more than half the world's population is expected to be normally asleep ... 1300 UTC would mean, in my estimate, 90 percent of it awake... But we cannot have USians -- not even just the west side ones - do things out of office hours, and the rest must comply, and if needed stay awake much past-midnight...... Is it not unjust..... You want to do the reading of jurisdiction related recs that are basically about the non US world asking for parity with the US, and you do it at at time when by far most of them are expected to be asleep! great work! And the proposal is to extend the meeting, not perhaps starting it earlier --- as they say, in somewhat different context, one needs to be in the hot seat to feel the heat, I can understand that from the US the reality of the rest of world does not even make a good palpable picture.. parminder
Thank you.
Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
======================================================
*Agenda for the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Plenary of 18 October 19:00 to 21:15 UTC*
* *
1. Introduction, update to SOIs, reminder on standards of behavior
2. Review of Agenda
3. Administration
3.1.ICANN 60.
3.1.1. Face to Face plenary is Friday 27 October 8:30 to 17:00 local time (04:30 – 13:00 UTC)
3.1.2. Hight interest presentation on WS2 Monday 30 October 10:30 - 12:00 local time (06:30 – 08:00 UTC).
3.1.2.1. *Note we need to have 1 rapporteur per sub-group present at this session to answer questions from the community*.
3.1.2.2. Rapporteurs please confirm your presence to staff by Thursday 19 October 23:59 UTC.
3.1.2.3. In cases where there are co-rapporteurs please confirm to staff which co-rapporteur will be delegated to answer questions with your confirmation of presence.
3.2.ICANN 61
3.2.1. Reminder we will hold the usual pre-conference face to face on 9 March
3.2.2. Reminder of funding rules.
3.2.3. Confirmation of travel funding dates:
3.2.3.1. Begin accepting applications Thursday 12 October
3.2.3.2. Close applications Sunday 19 November 23:59 UTC
3.2.3.3. Submit final list to ICANN Monday 27 November
4. Legal Committee Update
4.1. Question sent to ICANN Legal on Ombudsman recommendation 8 regarding the independence of the proposed Ombuds Advisory Panel (questions sent directly to ICANN legal on approval of Co-chairs).
5. Second reading of the draft recommendation of the Ombuds sub-group
6. First reading of the final recommendations of the Transparency sub-group
7. Second reading of the final recommendations of the Human Rights sub-group.
8. First Reading of the draft recommendation of the Jurisdiction sub-group.
9. AOB
10.Next Plenaries
10.1. Friday 27 October face to face – all day
11.Adjournment
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Parminder. For years this groups has rotated calls between 05, 13 and 19 UTC. The pain is shared. I’m sure you can manage a late night. Jordan On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 at 5:38 AM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 09:47 PM, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Given we do have the Transparency report and that we do not expect to raise significant issues with the plenary we have modified the agenda to have the first reading of the Transparency final report after the second reading of the Ombuds draft recommendations. We would close out readings with Human Rights and Jurisdiction (new agenda below).
This would allow us to have a maximum of time for Jurisdiction while allowing other reports to be considered by the plenary.
Given we do have to complete a first reading of the Jurisdiction report at the 18 October plenary we would also like to advise everyone that if necessary we will extend the meeting to allow us to complete this. Currently the meeting is scheduled for 19:00 to 21:00 UTC but we would ask plenary participants to allow for an extra 15 minutes if required.
2100 UTC is 0230 past midnight in India.... This timing means that quite more than half the world's population is expected to be normally asleep ... 1300 UTC would mean, in my estimate, 90 percent of it awake... But we cannot have USians -- not even just the west side ones - do things out of office hours, and the rest must comply, and if needed stay awake much past-midnight...... Is it not unjust.....
You want to do the reading of jurisdiction related recs that are basically about the non US world asking for parity with the US, and you do it at at time when by far most of them are expected to be asleep! great work!
And the proposal is to extend the meeting, not perhaps starting it earlier --- as they say, in somewhat different context, one needs to be in the hot seat to feel the heat, I can understand that from the US the reality of the rest of world does not even make a good palpable picture..
parminder
Thank you.
Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
======================================================
*Agenda for the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Plenary of 18 October 19:00 to 21:15 UTC*
1. Introduction, update to SOIs, reminder on standards of behavior
2. Review of Agenda
3. Administration
3.1. ICANN 60.
3.1.1. Face to Face plenary is Friday 27 October 8:30 to 17:00 local time (04:30 – 13:00 UTC)
3.1.2. Hight interest presentation on WS2 Monday 30 October 10:30 - 12:00 local time (06:30 – 08:00 UTC).
3.1.2.1. *Note we need to have 1 rapporteur per sub-group present at this session to answer questions from the community*.
3.1.2.2. Rapporteurs please confirm your presence to staff by Thursday 19 October 23:59 UTC.
3.1.2.3. In cases where there are co-rapporteurs please confirm to staff which co-rapporteur will be delegated to answer questions with your confirmation of presence.
3.2. ICANN 61
3.2.1. Reminder we will hold the usual pre-conference face to face on 9 March
3.2.2. Reminder of funding rules.
3.2.3. Confirmation of travel funding dates:
3.2.3.1. Begin accepting applications Thursday 12 October
3.2.3.2. Close applications Sunday 19 November 23:59 UTC
3.2.3.3. Submit final list to ICANN Monday 27 November
4. Legal Committee Update
4.1. Question sent to ICANN Legal on Ombudsman recommendation 8 regarding the independence of the proposed Ombuds Advisory Panel (questions sent directly to ICANN legal on approval of Co-chairs).
5. Second reading of the draft recommendation of the Ombuds sub-group
6. First reading of the final recommendations of the Transparency sub-group
7. Second reading of the final recommendations of the Human Rights sub-group.
8. First Reading of the draft recommendation of the Jurisdiction sub-group.
9. AOB
10. Next Plenaries
10.1. Friday 27 October face to face – all day
11. Adjournment
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On Tuesday 17 October 2017 10:13 PM, Jordan Carter wrote:
Parminder.
For years this groups has rotated calls between 05, 13 and 19 UTC. The pain is shared. I’m sure you can manage a late night.
Thanks Jordan Running an international operation does require sharing pains and I have no problem with that, as long as the sharing is just. BTW, turning ICANN into a truly international organisation too requires sharing pains which some people seem not ready to. More to the point: I did not know plenary meetings rotates between 05, 13 and 19 UTC which looks much better. I have only attended jurisdiction sub group meetings that only rotate between 13 and 19. At the very start of the process last year I had objected to the timing but it did not change, adding 05 to the mix would have made it much more even... That would be share pain. parminder
Jordan
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 at 5:38 AM, parminder <parminder@itforchange.net <mailto:parminder@itforchange.net>> wrote:
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 09:47 PM, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Given we do have the Transparency report and that we do not expect to raise significant issues with the plenary we have modified the agenda to have the first reading of the Transparency final report after the second reading of the Ombuds draft recommendations. We would close out readings with Human Rights and Jurisdiction (new agenda below).
This would allow us to have a maximum of time for Jurisdiction while allowing other reports to be considered by the plenary.
Given we do have to complete a first reading of the Jurisdiction report at the 18 October plenary we would also like to advise everyone that if necessary we will extend the meeting to allow us to complete this. Currently the meeting is scheduled for 19:00 to 21:00 UTC but we would ask plenary participants to allow for an extra 15 minutes if required.
2100 UTC is 0230 past midnight in India.... This timing means that quite more than half the world's population is expected to be normally asleep ... 1300 UTC would mean, in my estimate, 90 percent of it awake... But we cannot have USians -- not even just the west side ones - do things out of office hours, and the rest must comply, and if needed stay awake much past-midnight...... Is it not unjust.....
You want to do the reading of jurisdiction related recs that are basically about the non US world asking for parity with the US, and you do it at at time when by far most of them are expected to be asleep! great work!
And the proposal is to extend the meeting, not perhaps starting it earlier --- as they say, in somewhat different context, one needs to be in the hot seat to feel the heat, I can understand that from the US the reality of the rest of world does not even make a good palpable picture..
parminder
Thank you.
Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
======================================================
*Agenda for the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Plenary of 18 October 19:00 to 21:15 UTC*
* *
1. Introduction, update to SOIs, reminder on standards of behavior
2. Review of Agenda
3. Administration
3.1.ICANN 60.
3.1.1. Face to Face plenary is Friday 27 October 8:30 to 17:00 local time (04:30 – 13:00 UTC)
3.1.2. Hight interest presentation on WS2 Monday 30 October 10:30 - 12:00 local time (06:30 – 08:00 UTC).
3.1.2.1. *Note we need to have 1 rapporteur per sub-group present at this session to answer questions from the community*.
3.1.2.2. Rapporteurs please confirm your presence to staff by Thursday 19 October 23:59 UTC.
3.1.2.3. In cases where there are co-rapporteurs please confirm to staff which co-rapporteur will be delegated to answer questions with your confirmation of presence.
3.2.ICANN 61
3.2.1. Reminder we will hold the usual pre-conference face to face on 9 March
3.2.2. Reminder of funding rules.
3.2.3. Confirmation of travel funding dates:
3.2.3.1. Begin accepting applications Thursday 12 October
3.2.3.2. Close applications Sunday 19 November 23:59 UTC
3.2.3.3. Submit final list to ICANN Monday 27 November
4. Legal Committee Update
4.1. Question sent to ICANN Legal on Ombudsman recommendation 8 regarding the independence of the proposed Ombuds Advisory Panel (questions sent directly to ICANN legal on approval of Co-chairs).
5. Second reading of the draft recommendation of the Ombuds sub-group
6. First reading of the final recommendations of the Transparency sub-group
7. Second reading of the final recommendations of the Human Rights sub-group.
8. First Reading of the draft recommendation of the Jurisdiction sub-group.
9. AOB
10.Next Plenaries
10.1. Friday 27 October face to face – all day
11.Adjournment
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+64-21-442-649 | jordan@internetnz.net.nz <mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz>
Sent on the run, apologies for brevity
Noted, thank you Bernie. On Oct 18, 2017 03:18, "Bernard Turcotte" <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
Given we do have the Transparency report and that we do not expect to raise significant issues with the plenary we have modified the agenda to have the first reading of the Transparency final report after the second reading of the Ombuds draft recommendations. We would close out readings with Human Rights and Jurisdiction (new agenda below).
This would allow us to have a maximum of time for Jurisdiction while allowing other reports to be considered by the plenary.
Given we do have to complete a first reading of the Jurisdiction report at the 18 October plenary we would also like to advise everyone that if necessary we will extend the meeting to allow us to complete this. Currently the meeting is scheduled for 19:00 to 21:00 UTC but we would ask plenary participants to allow for an extra 15 minutes if required.
Thank you.
Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
======================================================
*Agenda for the CCWG-Accountability-WS2 Plenary of 18 October 19:00 to 21:15 UTC*
1. Introduction, update to SOIs, reminder on standards of behavior
2. Review of Agenda
3. Administration
3.1. ICANN 60.
3.1.1. Face to Face plenary is Friday 27 October 8:30 to 17:00 local time (04:30 – 13:00 UTC)
3.1.2. Hight interest presentation on WS2 Monday 30 October 10:30 - 12:00 local time (06:30 – 08:00 UTC).
3.1.2.1. *Note we need to have 1 rapporteur per sub-group present at this session to answer questions from the community*.
3.1.2.2. Rapporteurs please confirm your presence to staff by Thursday 19 October 23:59 UTC.
3.1.2.3. In cases where there are co-rapporteurs please confirm to staff which co-rapporteur will be delegated to answer questions with your confirmation of presence.
3.2. ICANN 61
3.2.1. Reminder we will hold the usual pre-conference face to face on 9 March
3.2.2. Reminder of funding rules.
3.2.3. Confirmation of travel funding dates:
3.2.3.1. Begin accepting applications Thursday 12 October
3.2.3.2. Close applications Sunday 19 November 23:59 UTC
3.2.3.3. Submit final list to ICANN Monday 27 November
4. Legal Committee Update
4.1. Question sent to ICANN Legal on Ombudsman recommendation 8 regarding the independence of the proposed Ombuds Advisory Panel (questions sent directly to ICANN legal on approval of Co-chairs).
5. Second reading of the draft recommendation of the Ombuds sub-group
6. First reading of the final recommendations of the Transparency sub-group
7. Second reading of the final recommendations of the Human Rights sub-group.
8. First Reading of the draft recommendation of the Jurisdiction sub-group.
9. AOB
10. Next Plenaries
10.1. Friday 27 October face to face – all day
11. Adjournment
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