
This section currently reads: Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. Such a "Recall Committee" would have as chair a previous NomCom Chair and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom. Either option is legally viable. As mentioned by both Cheryl and I, the implications of "and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom" are vast and likely not what this group really needs. I would strongly suggest that the phrase be omitted. We could either defer the details of this alternative until after the public comment (and perhaps ask for input), or defer it until WS2. Also as noted, the sentence "Either option is legally viable." applies to both options 1 and 2 and should be the 2nd sentence of the base item g. Alan

hi Alan Thanks for this and for the chat on the adobe room. I propose rewording this as follows: *Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. The composition of such a special committee has not been determined, and input is welcome.* Jordan On 30 April 2015 at 16:40, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
This section currently reads:
Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. Such a "Recall Committee" would have as chair a previous NomCom Chair and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom. Either option is legally viable.
As mentioned by both Cheryl and I, the implications of "and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom" are vast and likely not what this group really needs. I would strongly suggest that the phrase be omitted. We could either defer the details of this alternative until after the public comment (and perhaps ask for input), or defer it until WS2.
Also as noted, the sentence "Either option is legally viable." applies to both options 1 and 2 and should be the 2nd sentence of the base item g.
Alan
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Perfect. Alan -- Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos. On April 30, 2015 2:55:21 AM EDT, Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
hi Alan
Thanks for this and for the chat on the adobe room.
I propose rewording this as follows:
*Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. The composition of such a special committee has not been determined, and input is welcome.*
Jordan
On 30 April 2015 at 16:40, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
This section currently reads:
Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. Such a "Recall Committee" would have as chair a previous NomCom Chair and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom. Either option is legally viable.
As mentioned by both Cheryl and I, the implications of "and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom" are vast and likely not what this group really needs. I would strongly suggest that the phrase be omitted. We could either defer the details of this alternative until after the public comment (and perhaps ask for input), or defer it until WS2.
Also as noted, the sentence "Either option is legally viable." applies to both options 1 and 2 and should be the 2nd sentence of the base item g.
Alan
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Hi Jordan, I disagree with this proposal. The initial idea in Avri's proposal was to have different individuals deciding on recall that the ones that nominated, but with the same balance of representation than the regular NomCom. With this text we are opening the door to a different balance of representation. I think the balance should be the same. Olivier Le 30 avr. 2015 à 09:09, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> a écrit : Perfect. Alan -- Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos. On April 30, 2015 2:55:21 AM EDT, Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz>> wrote: hi Alan Thanks for this and for the chat on the adobe room. I propose rewording this as follows: Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. The composition of such a special committee has not been determined, and input is welcome. Jordan On 30 April 2015 at 16:40, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> wrote: This section currently reads: Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. Such a “Recall Committee” would have as chair a previous NomCom Chair and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom. Either option is legally viable. As mentioned by both Cheryl and I, the implications of "and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom" are vast and likely not what this group really needs. I would strongly suggest that the phrase be omitted. We could either defer the details of this alternative until after the public comment (and perhaps ask for input), or defer it until WS2. Also as noted, the sentence "Either option is legally viable." applies to both options 1 and 2 and should be the 2nd sentence of the base item g. Alan _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -- Jordan Carter Chief Executive InternetNZ 04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob) jordan@internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz> Skype: jordancarter A better world through a better Internet _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you.

hi Olivier That is the idea - because the group is not resolved on the same balance. People have different views. It is not the stage of the process to try and force through a specific proposal where there isn't agreement on it, at this level of detail. bests Jordan On 1 May 2015 at 01:19, <olivier.muron@orange.com> wrote:
Hi Jordan, I disagree with this proposal. The initial idea in Avri's proposal was to have different individuals deciding on recall that the ones that nominated, but with the same balance of representation than the regular NomCom. With this text we are opening the door to a different balance of representation. I think the balance should be the same. Olivier
Le 30 avr. 2015 à 09:09, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> a écrit :
Perfect. Alan -- Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.
On April 30, 2015 2:55:21 AM EDT, Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
hi Alan
Thanks for this and for the chat on the adobe room.
I propose rewording this as follows:
*Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. The composition of such a special committee has not been determined, and input is welcome.*
Jordan
On 30 April 2015 at 16:40, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
This section currently reads:
Alternatively, a special committee of the NomCom could be established to deal with removal petitions when they arise. Such a "Recall Committee" would have as chair a previous NomCom Chair and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom. Either option is legally viable.
As mentioned by both Cheryl and I, the implications of "and would otherwise be formulated on the same basis as the regular NomCom" are vast and likely not what this group really needs. I would strongly suggest that the phrase be omitted. We could either defer the details of this alternative until after the public comment (and perhaps ask for input), or defer it until WS2.
Also as noted, the sentence "Either option is legally viable." applies to both options 1 and 2 and should be the 2nd sentence of the base item g.
Alan
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Alan Greenberg
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Jordan Carter
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olivier.muron@orange.com