Being a WS2 item I would hope that we don't dwell on it until we have come to agreement on the WS1 issues first during our deliberations in Paris. -James -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:04 PM To: 'Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr'; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report Thanks for the document, Mathieu. I hope proper time can be devoted to the discussion of this document during our F2F in Paris. At this point, I cannot see any time slot in our agenda for this topic (or perhaps it is under "other items to be reviewed"?) À bientôt! Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 -----Mensagem original----- De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill Enviada em: terça-feira, 14 de julho de 2015 18:53 Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report Dear Colleagues, Part of the comments we received call for more clarity and substance on the way we will address jurisdiction issues in WS2. The attached paper is a reviewed version of the paper we had drafted in Istanbul on the matter. It includes a bit more substance on gap analysis and next steps while sticking to the requirement approach. This document will be included in the package for the Paris F2F. Best, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr Twitter : @mathieuweill ***************************** _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community

Hi James, My understanding is that we will not be dealing with the issue of jurisdiction 'per se' in Paris, but will rather discuss how to deal with it in the subsequent phase of the work of this group. This is very important as it was one the items the community wanted more clarity on (as per the public comments received). Pedro Enviado do meu iPhone Em 14/07/2015, às 19:48, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com<mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com>> escreveu: +1 Paul -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 14 July 2015, 06:07PM -04:00 from James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>>: Being a WS2 item I would hope that we don't dwell on it until we have come to agreement on the WS1 issues first during our deliberations in Paris. -James -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity%2dbounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:04 PM To: 'Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr<mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr>'; accountability-cross-community@icann.org</compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report Thanks for the document, Mathieu. I hope proper time can be devoted to the discussion of this document during our F2F in Paris. At this point, I cannot see any time slot in our agenda for this topic (or perhaps it is under "other items to be reviewed"?) À bientôt! Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 -----Mensagem original----- De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity%2dbounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill Enviada em: terça-feira, 14 de julho de 2015 18:53 Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org</compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity@icann.org> Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report Dear Colleagues, Part of the comments we received call for more clarity and substance on the way we will address jurisdiction issues in WS2. The attached paper is a reviewed version of the paper we had drafted in Istanbul on the matter. It includes a bit more substance on gap analysis and next steps while sticking to the requirement approach. This document will be included in the package for the Paris F2F. Best, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</compose?To=mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill ***************************** _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</compose?To=Accountability%2dCross%2dCommunity@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</compose?To=Accountability%2dCross%2dCommunity@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community

Dear Mathieu, CCWG colleagues, First of all, let me thank you for the work in putting together a document that captures most of the discussions we have held in this group about the issue of jurisdiction and for proposing a possible way forward. Please find attached a reviewed version of the document. We have included comments and suggestions for rephrasing some of the sentences. Kind regards, Pedro ________________________________ De: Mathieu Weill [mathieu.weill@afnic.fr] Enviado: quarta-feira, 15 de julho de 2015 5:45 Para: Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Cc: Paul Rosenzweig; James Gannon; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Assunto: Re: Re[2]: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report Dear Pedro, All, We were planning to discuss any issues related to that specific discussion within one of the government related discussion slots if the group feels a need for a substantial discussion. Let us know on list if you feel there are substantial matters to discuss or if the papers is found acceptable as a response to the public comments. The better we capture the discussion up front the better. Best Mathieu Weill --------------- Depuis mon mobile, désolé pour le style Le 15 juil. 2015 à 01:46, Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva <pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br<mailto:pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br>> a écrit : Hi James, My understanding is that we will not be dealing with the issue of jurisdiction 'per se' in Paris, but will rather discuss how to deal with it in the subsequent phase of the work of this group. This is very important as it was one the items the community wanted more clarity on (as per the public comments received). Pedro Enviado do meu iPhone Em 14/07/2015, às 19:48, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com<mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com>> escreveu: +1 Paul -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 14 July 2015, 06:07PM -04:00 from James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>>: Being a WS2 item I would hope that we don't dwell on it until we have come to agreement on the WS1 issues first during our deliberations in Paris. -James -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity%2dbounces@...> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:04 PM To: 'Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr<mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr>'; accountability-cross-community@icann.org<https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report Thanks for the document, Mathieu. I hope proper time can be devoted to the discussion of this document during our F2F in Paris. At this point, I cannot see any time slot in our agenda for this topic (or perhaps it is under "other items to be reviewed"?) À bientôt! Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 -----Mensagem original----- De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity%2dbounces@...> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill Enviada em: terça-feira, 14 de julho de 2015 18:53 Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org<https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity@icann.org> Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report Dear Colleagues, Part of the comments we received call for more clarity and substance on the way we will address jurisdiction issues in WS2. The attached paper is a reviewed version of the paper we had drafted in Istanbul on the matter. It includes a bit more substance on gap analysis and next steps while sticking to the requirement approach. This document will be included in the package for the Paris F2F. Best, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill ***************************** _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=Accountability%2dCross%2dCommunity@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=Accountability%2dCross%2dCommunity@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community

Dear Colleagues, Please find enclosed an updated version of the jurisdiction paper, taking into account the feedbacks received by some colleagues. Best Mathieu Le 16/07/2015 01:30, Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva a écrit :

Dear Mathieu, CCWG colleagues,

First of all, let me thank you for the work in putting together a document that captures most of the discussions we have held in this group about the issue of jurisdiction and for proposing a possible way forward.

Please find attached a reviewed version of the document. We have included comments and suggestions for rephrasing some of the sentences.

Kind regards,

Pedro

------------------------------------------------------------------------ *De:* Mathieu Weill [mathieu.weill@afnic.fr] *Enviado:* quarta-feira, 15 de julho de 2015 5:45 *Para:* Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva *Cc:* Paul Rosenzweig; James Gannon; accountability-cross-community@icann.org *Assunto:* Re: Re[2]: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report

Dear Pedro, All,

We were planning to discuss any issues related to that specific discussion within one of the government related discussion slots if the group feels a need for a substantial discussion.

Let us know on list if you feel there are substantial matters to discuss or if the papers is found acceptable as a response to the public comments. The better we capture the discussion up front the better.

Best

Mathieu Weill --------------- Depuis mon mobile, désolé pour le style

Le 15 juil. 2015 à 01:46, Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva <pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br <mailto:pedro.ivo@itamaraty.gov.br>> a écrit :

...

Hi James,

My understanding is that we will not be dealing with the issue of jurisdiction 'per se' in Paris, but will rather discuss how to deal with it in the subsequent phase of the work of this group.

This is very important as it was one the items the community wanted more clarity on (as per the public comments received).

Pedro

Enviado do meu iPhone

Em 14/07/2015, às 19:48, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com <mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com>> escreveu:

...

+1

Paul

-- Sent from myMail app for Android

Tuesday, 14 July 2015, 06:07PM -04:00 from James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net <mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net>>:

Being a WS2 item I would hope that we don't dwell on it until we have come to agreement on the WS1 issues first during our deliberations in Paris.

-James

-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity%2dbounces@...> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:04 PM To: 'Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr <mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr>'; accountability-cross-community@icann.org <https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report

Thanks for the document, Mathieu.

I hope proper time can be devoted to the discussion of this document during our F2F in Paris. At this point, I cannot see any time slot in our agenda for this topic (or perhaps it is under "other items to be reviewed"?)

À bientôt!

Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609

Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609

-----Mensagem original----- De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity%2dbounces@...> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Mathieu Weill Enviada em: terça-feira, 14 de julho de 2015 18:53 Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org <https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=accountability%2dcross%2dcommunity@icann.org> Assunto: [CCWG-ACCT] Draft update of jurisdiction section of PC2 report

Dear Colleagues,

Part of the comments we received call for more clarity and substance on the way we will address jurisdiction issues in WS2. The attached paper is a reviewed version of the paper we had drafted in Istanbul on the matter. It includes a bit more substance on gap analysis and next steps while sticking to the requirement approach.

This document will be included in the package for the Paris F2F.

Best,

-- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr <https://e-aj.my.com/compose?To=mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************

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