Timeline for HR and Jurisdiction publications
Dear Colleagues, Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting. The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen. Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire. As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication. Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal. Best regards, Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
Dear Co-Chairs, Thanks for this, reply in-line: On 01/18/2017 11:49 AM, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
I don't think this would have my preference. Please allow me to explain.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation.
Why would this be a problem? If the chartering organizations and community members consider it before Copenhagen, we could use the Copenhagen meeting to actually discuss the Public Comments and make efficient use of our time to ensure we're done before out deadline in June. Else I am afraid we have another F2F meeting with less content discussion than we might have hoped.
Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
The Framework of Interpretation is not an enormous document, so it would be great to understand why this would be a problem.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
I think it would be very beneficial for a constructive discussion in Copenhagen to get the public comments on the FoI-HR before the meeting. Next to that, I think it's also important to be able to keep on track with our timeline, as well as keep the work-flow in the Human Rights subgroup going. I am afraid that the longer this might take, the more people we might lose. Best, Niels
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Dear Co-Chair, Thank you very much for your thoughts and vision. However, I am not in favour of closing dates to be 19 March due to the fact that for some SO/AC, physical ( FACE -TO FACE) discussion is considerably contribute to the public comments thus we need to have sufficient time to react. I suggest that the response time to HR be prolonged to end 30 calendre days after the end of ICANN 58. Once again we should not do the thing harshly .Please allow those constituencies like GAC that only in a physical meeting they would be able to have full debate on the matter and then after have sufficient time to respond to the public comment. This is a formal proposal. I request ,at the same time, our dear chair ,Niels to also not to be in hurry and allow us to think, top reflect and to react . Regards Kavouss 2017-01-18 13:33 GMT+01:00 Niels ten Oever <lists@nielstenoever.net>:
Dear Co-Chairs,
Thanks for this, reply in-line:
On 01/18/2017 11:49 AM, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
I don't think this would have my preference. Please allow me to explain.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation.
Why would this be a problem? If the chartering organizations and community members consider it before Copenhagen, we could use the Copenhagen meeting to actually discuss the Public Comments and make efficient use of our time to ensure we're done before out deadline in June. Else I am afraid we have another F2F meeting with less content discussion than we might have hoped.
Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
The Framework of Interpretation is not an enormous document, so it would be great to understand why this would be a problem.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
I think it would be very beneficial for a constructive discussion in Copenhagen to get the public comments on the FoI-HR before the meeting.
Next to that, I think it's also important to be able to keep on track with our timeline, as well as keep the work-flow in the Human Rights subgroup going. I am afraid that the longer this might take, the more people we might lose.
Best,
Niels
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Dear Co- CHAIR, We are waiting to receive your formal reply to the question raised by Farzaneh and reiterated and conveyed to you by Greg Regards Kavouss 2017-01-18 13:46 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>:
Dear Co-Chair, Thank you very much for your thoughts and vision. However, I am not in favour of closing dates to be 19 March due to the fact that for some SO/AC, physical ( FACE -TO FACE) discussion is considerably contribute to the public comments thus we need to have sufficient time to react. I suggest that the response time to HR be prolonged to end 30 calendre days after the end of ICANN 58. Once again we should not do the thing harshly .Please allow those constituencies like GAC that only in a physical meeting they would be able to have full debate on the matter and then after have sufficient time to respond to the public comment. This is a formal proposal. I request ,at the same time, our dear chair ,Niels to also not to be in hurry and allow us to think, top reflect and to react . Regards Kavouss
2017-01-18 13:33 GMT+01:00 Niels ten Oever <lists@nielstenoever.net>:
Dear Co-Chairs,
Thanks for this, reply in-line:
On 01/18/2017 11:49 AM, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
I don't think this would have my preference. Please allow me to explain.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation.
Why would this be a problem? If the chartering organizations and community members consider it before Copenhagen, we could use the Copenhagen meeting to actually discuss the Public Comments and make efficient use of our time to ensure we're done before out deadline in June. Else I am afraid we have another F2F meeting with less content discussion than we might have hoped.
Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
The Framework of Interpretation is not an enormous document, so it would be great to understand why this would be a problem.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
I think it would be very beneficial for a constructive discussion in Copenhagen to get the public comments on the FoI-HR before the meeting.
Next to that, I think it's also important to be able to keep on track with our timeline, as well as keep the work-flow in the Human Rights subgroup going. I am afraid that the longer this might take, the more people we might lose.
Best,
Niels
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Hello Mathieu, I will be fine with a public comment that closes 60 days from publication for both HR and jurisdiction. That means the date can't be 19th since the PC has not yet commenced. That said, I wrote to Niel on the HR list indicating that it might be prudent to get answers to the questions put to the Co-Chairs of the CCWG plenary before putting the FoI to PC. This is because the questions sent in by Niel has a lot to do with the FoI. I don't think we've gotten a response to those questions yet? If we want to send the document for public comment anyway then it should clearly state in the preamble whether the points listed in Annex12 were considered during the development of the FoI. Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 18 Jan 2017 11:50, "Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Dear Seun, Tks for your comments Pls see below. I am strongly against the deadline of 19 March for public comments see below Dear Co-Chair, Thank you very much for your thoughts and vision. However, I am not in favour of closing dates to be 19 March due to the fact that for some SO/AC, physical ( FACE -TO FACE) discussion is considerably contribute to the public comments thus we need to have sufficient time to react. I suggest that the response time to HR be prolonged to end 30 calendre days after the end of ICANN 58. Once again we should not do the thing harshly .Please allow those constituencies like GAC that only in a physical meeting they would be able to have full debate on the matter and then after have sufficient time to respond to the public comment. This is a formal proposal. I request ,at the same time, our dear chair ,Niels to also not to be in hurry and allow us to think, top reflect and to react . Regards 2017-01-18 14:03 GMT+01:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Hello Mathieu,
I will be fine with a public comment that closes 60 days from publication for both HR and jurisdiction. That means the date can't be 19th since the PC has not yet commenced.
That said, I wrote to Niel on the HR list indicating that it might be prudent to get answers to the questions put to the Co-Chairs of the CCWG plenary before putting the FoI to PC. This is because the questions sent in by Niel has a lot to do with the FoI. I don't think we've gotten a response to those questions yet?
If we want to send the document for public comment anyway then it should clearly state in the preamble whether the points listed in Annex12 were considered during the development of the FoI.
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 18 Jan 2017 11:50, "Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Hello Kavouss, <Filtered lists that I don't have posting rights to> Note that my comment was not about supporting 19th because that isn't feasible if we work with 60days but my support was rather for number of days for comment period. Nevertheless more time is definitely better, perhaps a balance would be end of March assuming they are going out for PC this week. Overall it all depends on the day the PC is set to go live. I would be fine with the PC ending 2weeks (and beyond) after ICANN 58 Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 18 Jan 2017 2:14 p.m., "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Seun, Tks for your comments Pls see below. I am strongly against the deadline of 19 March for public comments see below Dear Co-Chair, Thank you very much for your thoughts and vision. However, I am not in favour of closing dates to be 19 March due to the fact that for some SO/AC, physical ( FACE -TO FACE) discussion is considerably contribute to the public comments thus we need to have sufficient time to react. I suggest that the response time to HR be prolonged to end 30 calendre days after the end of ICANN 58. Once again we should not do the thing harshly .Please allow those constituencies like GAC that only in a physical meeting they would be able to have full debate on the matter and then after have sufficient time to respond to the public comment. This is a formal proposal. I request ,at the same time, our dear chair ,Niels to also not to be in hurry and allow us to think, top reflect and to react . Regards
2017-01-18 14:03 GMT+01:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Hello Mathieu,
I will be fine with a public comment that closes 60 days from publication for both HR and jurisdiction. That means the date can't be 19th since the PC has not yet commenced.
That said, I wrote to Niel on the HR list indicating that it might be prudent to get answers to the questions put to the Co-Chairs of the CCWG plenary before putting the FoI to PC. This is because the questions sent in by Niel has a lot to do with the FoI. I don't think we've gotten a response to those questions yet?
If we want to send the document for public comment anyway then it should clearly state in the preamble whether the points listed in Annex12 were considered during the development of the FoI.
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 18 Jan 2017 11:50, "Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Dear Seun, Tks for your immediate reply. Unfortunately, decision making at the level of governments are very difficult since many internal7 national entities are involved. HR is a sensitive, delicate and crucial issue and must be properly treated. Private sector are more autonomous .They have more legal and administrative supports than some other constituencies like GAC/ Governments which are ,at least equally ,if not more concerned about the Public Policy impact of IT Regards Kavouss 2017-01-18 14:45 GMT+01:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Hello Kavouss,
<Filtered lists that I don't have posting rights to>
Note that my comment was not about supporting 19th because that isn't feasible if we work with 60days but my support was rather for number of days for comment period. Nevertheless more time is definitely better, perhaps a balance would be end of March assuming they are going out for PC this week.
Overall it all depends on the day the PC is set to go live. I would be fine with the PC ending 2weeks (and beyond) after ICANN 58
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 18 Jan 2017 2:14 p.m., "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Seun, Tks for your comments Pls see below. I am strongly against the deadline of 19 March for public comments see below Dear Co-Chair, Thank you very much for your thoughts and vision. However, I am not in favour of closing dates to be 19 March due to the fact that for some SO/AC, physical ( FACE -TO FACE) discussion is considerably contribute to the public comments thus we need to have sufficient time to react. I suggest that the response time to HR be prolonged to end 30 calendre days after the end of ICANN 58. Once again we should not do the thing harshly .Please allow those constituencies like GAC that only in a physical meeting they would be able to have full debate on the matter and then after have sufficient time to respond to the public comment. This is a formal proposal. I request ,at the same time, our dear chair ,Niels to also not to be in hurry and allow us to think, top reflect and to react . Regards
2017-01-18 14:03 GMT+01:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Hello Mathieu,
I will be fine with a public comment that closes 60 days from publication for both HR and jurisdiction. That means the date can't be 19th since the PC has not yet commenced.
That said, I wrote to Niel on the HR list indicating that it might be prudent to get answers to the questions put to the Co-Chairs of the CCWG plenary before putting the FoI to PC. This is because the questions sent in by Niel has a lot to do with the FoI. I don't think we've gotten a response to those questions yet?
If we want to send the document for public comment anyway then it should clearly state in the preamble whether the points listed in Annex12 were considered during the development of the FoI.
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 18 Jan 2017 11:50, "Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Thanks Mathieu, I see no issue with the schedule as proposed. Best regards, David David McAuley International Policy Manager Verisign Inc. 703-948-4154 From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu Weill Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:50 AM To: 'Accountability Cross Community' Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline for HR and Jurisdiction publications Dear Colleagues, Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting. The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen. Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire. As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication. Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal. Best regards, Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
Dear David, yes some sector do not realize that others including some if not all 8 those who are your allies do not have problem ).GAC members would have problem. The shorter the time ,the better for some people but not for some , the majority of GAC Members. I strongly oppose to the 19 March deadline for the reasons already given Regards Kavouss 2017-01-18 21:05 GMT+01:00 McAuley, David <dmcauley@verisign.com>:
Thanks Mathieu,
I see no issue with the schedule as proposed.
Best regards,
David
David McAuley
International Policy Manager
Verisign Inc.
703-948-4154 <(703)%20948-4154>
*From:* accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathieu Weill *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:50 AM *To:* 'Accountability Cross Community' *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline for HR and Jurisdiction publications
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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I am not sure what is meant by the the first sentence. However, 60 days is, and should be, more than a sufficient period of time for the public consultation, particularly given that the standard public comment period is, I understand from the co-chairs e-mail, 42 days. Matthew On 18/01/2017 21:03, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
Dear David, yes some sector do not realize that others including some if not all 8 those who are your allies do not have problem ).GAC members would have problem. The shorter the time ,the better for some people but not for some , the majority of GAC Members. I strongly oppose to the 19 March deadline for the reasons already given Regards Kavouss
2017-01-18 21:05 GMT+01:00 McAuley, David <dmcauley@verisign.com <mailto:dmcauley@verisign.com>>:
Thanks Mathieu,
I see no issue with the schedule as proposed.
Best regards,
David
David McAuley
International Policy Manager
Verisign Inc.
703-948-4154 <tel:%28703%29%20948-4154>
*From:*accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mathieu Weill *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:50 AM *To:* 'Accountability Cross Community' *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline for HR and Jurisdiction publications
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Dear Fellow Members, Having worked on IP for decades and having lead at least 2 teams pleading cases at the OAS Interamerican Human Rights Court I thought I would be able to contribute to the discussion. However, I see an agenda that is quite advanced. Would any of you tell me what is the goal if INTA in this field and what has been done so far? That way I could determine if I can make a contribution or If I am late and would only be a hindrance to the team. Thank you kindly Norman Caldera 2017-01-18 16:47 GMT-06:00 matthew shears <mshears@cdt.org>:
I am not sure what is meant by the the first sentence. However, 60 days is, and should be, more than a sufficient period of time for the public consultation, particularly given that the standard public comment period is, I understand from the co-chairs e-mail, 42 days.
Matthew
On 18/01/2017 21:03, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
Dear David, yes some sector do not realize that others including some if not all 8 those who are your allies do not have problem ).GAC members would have problem. The shorter the time ,the better for some people but not for some , the majority of GAC Members. I strongly oppose to the 19 March deadline for the reasons already given Regards Kavouss
2017-01-18 21:05 GMT+01:00 McAuley, David <dmcauley@verisign.com>:
Thanks Mathieu,
I see no issue with the schedule as proposed.
Best regards,
David
David McAuley
International Policy Manager
Verisign Inc.
703-948-4154 <%28703%29%20948-4154>
*From:* accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathieu Weill *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:50 AM *To:* 'Accountability Cross Community' *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline for HR and Jurisdiction publications
Dear Colleagues,
Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting.
The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen.
Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire.
As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication.
Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal.
Best regards,
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Dear Mathieu Thank you for this opportunity to comment the proposed timelines. Given the fact that the public comment periods have not started (and for instance there is still discussion ongoing on "how" to perform them), and that the Copenhagen meeting would be very close to the end of the envisaged comment periods, I agree that we should let the deadlines end after Copenhagen. With this in mind, I would favor a deadline that allows for sufficient time for travel back to each homes and to digest the F2F discussions in Copenhagen, before submitting the inputs to the different comment periods. Two weeks after Copenhagen could be the right amount of time for doing so. If we are eager to receive consensus inputs from SO/ACs this may even take a bit longer, not only for the GAC but also for other SO/AC - I see no reason for setting artificially tight deadlines in this regard, as the period April-June is probably adequate to assess and digest the inputs to be received. Kind regards Jorge Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Mathieu Weill Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2017 11:50 An: 'Accountability Cross Community' <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Betreff: [CCWG-ACCT] Timeline for HR and Jurisdiction publications Dear Colleagues, Although it is uncertain exactly when the questionnaire for Jurisdiction and the public comment for Human Rights will actually be published the Co-Chairs would suggest that the closing date for both of these be after the Copenhagen meeting. The reasoning behind this is that at best the standard 42 days consultation period would end immediately prior to the Copenhagen - this would imply chartering organizations and community members would be considering this while they are preparing for Copenhagen - which as Cheryl Langdon-Orr has pointed out on our last plenary is not an ideal situation. Additionally staff would not have enough time to prepare the report on these for our consideration in Copenhagen. Additionally the jurisdiction questionnaire is meant to be considered by a wider community and as such it would be good to extend the standard period to 60 days to allow everyone ample opportunity to answer the questionnaire. As such we would recommend that the closing period for the Human Rights public consultation be Sunday 19 March 23:59 UTC and that the Jurisdiction questionnaire request responses within 60 days of the initial publication. Thank you in advance for your feedbacks on this proposal. Best regards, Thomas, Leon & Mathieu
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Jorge.Cancio＠bakom.admin.ch -
Kavouss Arasteh -
Mathieu Weill -
matthew shears -
McAuley, David -
Niels ten Oever -
Norman Caldera -
Seun Ojedeji