Transparent communication between ccwg leaders and ICANN staff
I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently. -- Farzaneh
I support this request for transparency in our group’s work. It can only help to show others what we are doing. Thanks, Robin
On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:18 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:
I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently.
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I support it too, but because it will show us what they (the Co-Chairs) are doing. el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
On 21 Nov 2015, at 20:49, Robin Gross <robin@ipjustice.org> wrote:
I support this request for transparency in our group’s work. It can only help to show others what we are doing.
Thanks, Robin
On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:18 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:
I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently.
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Great idea Farzi. There obviously is precedence for it within ICANN and it would help dispel the perception of some, a perception I personally believe is unwarranted, that anything untoward is or has been going on here. It's something we probably should have been doing from the start. ---------------------------------------- From: "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el@lisse.na> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:30 PM To: "CCWG Accountability" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Cc: "Lisse Eberhard" <directors@omadhina.NET> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparent communication between ccwg leaders and ICANN staff I support it too, but because it will show us what they (the Co-Chairs) are doing. el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini > On 21 Nov 2015, at 20:49, Robin Gross <robin@ipjustice.org> wrote: > > I support this request for transparency in our group's work. It can only help to show others what we are doing. > > Thanks, > Robin > > >> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:18 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently. >> >> -- >> Farzaneh >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
I second this as well. On 22 Nov 2015 01:48, "Edward Morris" <egmorris1@toast.net> wrote:
Great idea Farzi. There obviously is precedence for it within ICANN and it would help dispel the perception of some, a perception I personally believe is unwarranted, that anything untoward is or has been going on here. It's something we probably should have been doing from the start.
------------------------------ *From*: "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el@lisse.na> *Sent*: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:30 PM *To*: "CCWG Accountability" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> *Cc*: "Lisse Eberhard" <directors@omadhina.NET> *Subject*: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparent communication between ccwg leaders and ICANN staff
I support it too, but because it will show us what they (the Co-Chairs) are doing. el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini > On 21 Nov 2015, at 20:49, Robin Gross <robin@ipjustice.org> wrote: > > I support this request for transparency in our group’s work. It can only help to show others what we are doing. > > Thanks, > Robin > > >> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:18 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently. >> >> -- >> Farzaneh >> _______________________________________________ >> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list >> Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
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1+ to Farzaneh Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org im Auftrag von farzaneh badii Gesendet: Sa 21.11.2015 19:18 An: Accountability Cross Community Betreff: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparent communication between ccwg leaders andICANN staff I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently. -- Farzaneh
Hi, I strongly support the use of transparency everywhere in CCWG. It was the intent in ATRT2 to initiate a culture where everything done at ICANN would be done transparently unless there is a well established reason for not doing so; e.g employee issues, NDAs or court orders. It was also the recommendation that methods of publicly logging the exceptions to transparency and the reason for the decision be developed through a bottom up process and used. This a goal we are still far from achieving. It is one I hope figures into WS2. It is a goal that requires constant struggle. Open archives are one of the critical ingredients to transparency. Except for when dealing with issues that regarded employee confidentiality, ATRT2 did everything with an accessible record, i.e. recording, transcript, or archive. A CCWG on Transparency should involve maximum transparency avri On 22-Nov-15 04:46, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:
1+ to Farzaneh
Wolfgang
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org im Auftrag von farzaneh badii Gesendet: Sa 21.11.2015 19:18 An: Accountability Cross Community Betreff: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparent communication between ccwg leaders andICANN staff
I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently.
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I don't know why this is coming up now, nevertheless, +1 on creating public archive for all non-confidential interactions between CCWG and staff. Thanks for raising it. Regards Sent from my Asus Zenfone2 Kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 21 Nov 2015 19:18, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:
I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently.
-- Farzaneh
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+1 Farzaneh Regards On 11/22/15, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know why this is coming up now, nevertheless, +1 on creating public archive for all non-confidential interactions between CCWG and staff.
Thanks for raising it.
Regards
Sent from my Asus Zenfone2 Kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 21 Nov 2015 19:18, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:
I was going through the old ATRT2 archives and noticed that they had a publicly archived mailing list for all coordination activities between the leaders of the ATRT2 and ICANN staff. Given we at the CCWG have committed to making ICANN transparent, perhaps we should be the first to implement this and make all communications between our leadership and ICANN staff available likewise. To avoid big surprises and behind the scenes actions, and unnecessary pressure on ICANN staff, I would like to ask for a separate mailing list for communication with the staff. All the communications from chairs and working parties leaders to the ICANN staff should be channeled through that open mailing list transparently.
-- Farzaneh
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participants (9)
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"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" -
Avri Doria -
Barrack Otieno -
Dr Eberhard W Lisse -
Edward Morris -
farzaneh badii -
Padmini -
Robin Gross -
Seun Ojedeji