Re: [AFRI-Discuss] [afralo-rop] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
LACRALO has had a 1-term limit for RALO-appointed ALAC members ever since their rules were written. The only exception was those members seated prior to the rules being written (they were limited to one term following the adoption of the rules - that is, the rule was not made retroactive). NARALO has a 2-term limit, but if someone serves a partial term due to a resignation or other vacancy, the partial term may or may not count as a term depending on how long it is). Alan At 29/06/2017 11:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Alan,
As a follow-up, am actually curious to know which RALO limits ALAC term to 1 as I don't think there is such limit.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Alan, I believe that is still somewhat inline with my point that there isn't a term limit as per ALAC ROP. Thanks for indicating that some RALO have term limits which addresses my doubt on that part. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 5:35 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: At 29/06/2017 10:50 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well.
To clarify the facts, the ALAC Rules of Procedure has no term limits for ALAC Members. Some RALOs limit the number of consecutive terms (I think to either 1 term or 2 terms) and some have no limits. Alan
Okay thanks for the clarification Alan. So in summary we have the current status across RALOs as it concerns their ALAC rep (anyone can if necessary): AFRALO - No limit NARALO - 2 terms limit LACRALO - 1 term limit APRALO - No limits EURALO - No limits I hope this can serve as useful information as well for our RALO as we consider this topic. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 6:13 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
LACRALO has had a 1-term limit for RALO-appointed ALAC members ever since their rules were written. The only exception was those members seated prior to the rules being written (they were limited to one term following the adoption of the rules - that is, the rule was not made retroactive). NARALO has a 2-term limit, but if someone serves a partial term due to a resignation or other vacancy, the partial term may or may not count as a term depending on how long it is).
Alan
At 29/06/2017 11:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Alan,
As a follow-up, am actually curious to know which RALO limits ALAC term to 1 as I don't think there is such limit.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com > wrote: Hello Alan, I believe that is still somewhat inline with my point that there isn't a term limit as per ALAC ROP. Thanks for indicating that some RALO have term limits which addresses my doubt on that part. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 5:35 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote: At 29/06/2017 10:50 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well.
To clarify the facts, the ALAC Rules of Procedure has no term limits for ALAC Members. Some RALOs limit the number of consecutive terms (I think to either 1 term or 2 terms) and some have no limits. Alan
This is a good conversation which allows some clarifications to be brought, thanks Seun and Alan for your contributions. I am not regularly contributing here but follow most of times the conversations. I find this to be a good sign that AFRALO members are caring about their RALO by sharing their concern (here through this motion), it is something to encourage, not the other way around. I do encourage healthy conversations around this motion form our colleague. This can be discussed either here or in the appropriate mailing list as mentionned. I pesonally do believe we should set terms limit for all offices and set the ALAC seat for 2 terms as well as the rest of our offices. Many people have been talking about the issue of "same people holding offices" but many of us here never step in whenever there is election. Our reps are doing good job and i believe that's why they are re elected by members here. I do encourage many people to present themselves whenever there are open seats to fill. 2017-06-29 18:28 UTC+02:00, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Okay thanks for the clarification Alan. So in summary we have the current status across RALOs as it concerns their ALAC rep (anyone can if necessary):
AFRALO - No limit NARALO - 2 terms limit LACRALO - 1 term limit APRALO - No limits EURALO - No limits
I hope this can serve as useful information as well for our RALO as we consider this topic.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 6:13 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
LACRALO has had a 1-term limit for RALO-appointed ALAC members ever since their rules were written. The only exception was those members seated prior to the rules being written (they were limited to one term following the adoption of the rules - that is, the rule was not made retroactive). NARALO has a 2-term limit, but if someone serves a partial term due to a resignation or other vacancy, the partial term may or may not count as a term depending on how long it is).
Alan
At 29/06/2017 11:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Alan,
As a follow-up, am actually curious to know which RALO limits ALAC term to 1 as I don't think there is such limit.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com > wrote: Hello Alan, I believe that is still somewhat inline with my point that there isn't a term limit as per ALAC ROP. Thanks for indicating that some RALO have term limits which addresses my doubt on that part. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 5:35 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote: At 29/06/2017 10:50 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well.
To clarify the facts, the ALAC Rules of Procedure has no term limits for ALAC Members. Some RALOs limit the number of consecutive terms (I think to either 1 term or 2 terms) and some have no limits. Alan
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Dear all, I would like to add a +1 to Arsene's comments on welcoming good, healthy and open discussion on the topic of term limits. As he rightly intimated, this is something that has been said but never actually addressed head on. It's about time it is done and what better place than the ROP Working Group. Looking forward to fruitful discussions. Beran Sent from my iPhone
On 29 Jun 2017, at 21:28, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a good conversation which allows some clarifications to be brought, thanks Seun and Alan for your contributions. I am not regularly contributing here but follow most of times the conversations.
I find this to be a good sign that AFRALO members are caring about their RALO by sharing their concern (here through this motion), it is something to encourage, not the other way around. I do encourage healthy conversations around this motion form our colleague.
This can be discussed either here or in the appropriate mailing list as mentionned.
I pesonally do believe we should set terms limit for all offices and set the ALAC seat for 2 terms as well as the rest of our offices. Many people have been talking about the issue of "same people holding offices" but many of us here never step in whenever there is election.
Our reps are doing good job and i believe that's why they are re elected by members here. I do encourage many people to present themselves whenever there are open seats to fill.
2017-06-29 18:28 UTC+02:00, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Okay thanks for the clarification Alan. So in summary we have the current status across RALOs as it concerns their ALAC rep (anyone can if necessary):
AFRALO - No limit NARALO - 2 terms limit LACRALO - 1 term limit APRALO - No limits EURALO - No limits
I hope this can serve as useful information as well for our RALO as we consider this topic.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 6:13 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
LACRALO has had a 1-term limit for RALO-appointed ALAC members ever since their rules were written. The only exception was those members seated prior to the rules being written (they were limited to one term following the adoption of the rules - that is, the rule was not made retroactive). NARALO has a 2-term limit, but if someone serves a partial term due to a resignation or other vacancy, the partial term may or may not count as a term depending on how long it is).
Alan
At 29/06/2017 11:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Alan,
As a follow-up, am actually curious to know which RALO limits ALAC term to 1 as I don't think there is such limit.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com > wrote: Hello Alan, I believe that is still somewhat inline with my point that there isn't a term limit as per ALAC ROP. Thanks for indicating that some RALO have term limits which addresses my doubt on that part. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 5:35 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote: At 29/06/2017 10:50 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well.
To clarify the facts, the ALAC Rules of Procedure has no term limits for ALAC Members. Some RALOs limit the number of consecutive terms (I think to either 1 term or 2 terms) and some have no limits. Alan
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Hello All, I am happy to follow this discussion and to see that our GA proposal to bring this discussion into the working group still prevails and seems to be endorsed by all of us. Arsene made a good point about setting terms and having hard working and committed members stepping in leadership positions. I will continue to call on young members' engagement with a strong gender dimension. Capacity building and coaching of our new members remain a top priority for AFRALO to continue to be a good reference in At-Large. Best wishes to all of you, Fatimata Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Beran Dondeh via afralo-rop <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
I would like to add a +1 to Arsene's comments on welcoming good, healthy and open discussion on the topic of term limits.
As he rightly intimated, this is something that has been said but never actually addressed head on. It's about time it is done and what better place than the ROP Working Group.
Looking forward to fruitful discussions.
Beran
Sent from my iPhone
On 29 Jun 2017, at 21:28, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a good conversation which allows some clarifications to be brought, thanks Seun and Alan for your contributions. I am not regularly contributing here but follow most of times the conversations.
I find this to be a good sign that AFRALO members are caring about their RALO by sharing their concern (here through this motion), it is something to encourage, not the other way around. I do encourage healthy conversations around this motion form our colleague.
This can be discussed either here or in the appropriate mailing list as mentionned.
I pesonally do believe we should set terms limit for all offices and set the ALAC seat for 2 terms as well as the rest of our offices. Many people have been talking about the issue of "same people holding offices" but many of us here never step in whenever there is election.
Our reps are doing good job and i believe that's why they are re elected by members here. I do encourage many people to present themselves whenever there are open seats to fill.
2017-06-29 18:28 UTC+02:00, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Okay thanks for the clarification Alan. So in summary we have the current status across RALOs as it concerns their ALAC rep (anyone can if necessary):
AFRALO - No limit NARALO - 2 terms limit LACRALO - 1 term limit APRALO - No limits EURALO - No limits
I hope this can serve as useful information as well for our RALO as we consider this topic.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 6:13 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
LACRALO has had a 1-term limit for RALO-appointed ALAC members ever since their rules were written. The only exception was those members seated prior to the rules being written (they were limited to one term following the adoption of the rules - that is, the rule was not made retroactive). NARALO has a 2-term limit, but if someone serves a partial term due to a resignation or other vacancy, the partial term may or may not count as a term depending on how long it is).
Alan
At 29/06/2017 11:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Alan,
As a follow-up, am actually curious to know which RALO limits ALAC term to 1 as I don't think there is such limit.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com > wrote: Hello Alan, I believe that is still somewhat inline with my point that there isn't a term limit as per ALAC ROP. Thanks for indicating that some RALO have term limits which addresses my doubt on that part. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 5:35 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote: At 29/06/2017 10:50 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well.
To clarify the facts, the ALAC Rules of Procedure has no term limits for ALAC Members. Some RALOs limit the number of consecutive terms (I think to either 1 term or 2 terms) and some have no limits. Alan
-- ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>* Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>* Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
2015 Mandela Washington Felllow <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> & Mexico <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>)* - *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.
Check the *2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC* report (English <http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234>) and (French <http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242>) _______________________________________________ afralo-rop mailing list afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afralo-rop
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Dear all, This is a good discussion. It is good to see a follow-up after the General Assembly. Out of curiosity from the comment that was made about not having new leaders, I checked present https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/afralo and previous leaders community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Previous+AFRALO+Regional+Officersommunity.icann.org of AFRALO. I noted that there are both new and familiar names on both lists. I also observed that most of the leaders 'grew' into another role. For example, someone went from Secretary to Chair to ALAC member. There is a term limit (2 years, re-electable). I also want to refer to the very recent call for nominations for AFRALO leaders. If you notice from this link https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2017+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections%2C+..., there was no competition. Read: No new names were nominated, therefore there were no elections. I would like to encourage all of us to actively participate in these processes. If we want to see new names/faces, we should nominate and elect new leaders. But most importantly, we should participate in working groups and in our monthly calls. Otherwise, I am happy to note that we are discussing this. I am also happy to discuss this further during ROP calls. Kind regards, Sarah On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Fatimata Seye Sylla <fsylla@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,
I am happy to follow this discussion and to see that our GA proposal to bring this discussion into the working group still prevails and seems to be endorsed by all of us.
Arsene made a good point about setting terms and having hard working and committed members stepping in leadership positions. I will continue to call on young members' engagement with a strong gender dimension. Capacity building and coaching of our new members remain a top priority for AFRALO to continue to be a good reference in At-Large.
Best wishes to all of you, Fatimata
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Beran Dondeh via afralo-rop < afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
I would like to add a +1 to Arsene's comments on welcoming good, healthy and open discussion on the topic of term limits.
As he rightly intimated, this is something that has been said but never actually addressed head on. It's about time it is done and what better place than the ROP Working Group.
Looking forward to fruitful discussions.
Beran
Sent from my iPhone
On 29 Jun 2017, at 21:28, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a good conversation which allows some clarifications to be brought, thanks Seun and Alan for your contributions. I am not regularly contributing here but follow most of times the conversations.
I find this to be a good sign that AFRALO members are caring about their RALO by sharing their concern (here through this motion), it is something to encourage, not the other way around. I do encourage healthy conversations around this motion form our colleague.
This can be discussed either here or in the appropriate mailing list as mentionned.
I pesonally do believe we should set terms limit for all offices and set the ALAC seat for 2 terms as well as the rest of our offices. Many people have been talking about the issue of "same people holding offices" but many of us here never step in whenever there is election.
Our reps are doing good job and i believe that's why they are re elected by members here. I do encourage many people to present themselves whenever there are open seats to fill.
Okay thanks for the clarification Alan. So in summary we have the current status across RALOs as it concerns their ALAC rep (anyone can if necessary):
AFRALO - No limit NARALO - 2 terms limit LACRALO - 1 term limit APRALO - No limits EURALO - No limits
I hope this can serve as useful information as well for our RALO as we consider this topic.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 6:13 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
LACRALO has had a 1-term limit for RALO-appointed ALAC members ever since their rules were written. The only exception was those members seated prior to the rules being written (they were limited to one term following
adoption of the rules - that is, the rule was not made retroactive). NARALO has a 2-term limit, but if someone serves a partial term due to a resignation or other vacancy, the partial term may or may not count as a term depending on how long it is).
Alan
At 29/06/2017 11:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Alan,
As a follow-up, am actually curious to know which RALO limits ALAC term to 1 as I don't think there is such limit.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com > wrote: Hello Alan, I believe that is still somewhat inline with my point that there isn't a term limit as per ALAC ROP. Thanks for indicating that some RALO have term limits which addresses my doubt on that part. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 5:35 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote: At 29/06/2017 10:50 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well.
To clarify the facts, the ALAC Rules of Procedure has no term limits for ALAC Members. Some RALOs limit the number of consecutive terms (I
2017-06-29 18:28 UTC+02:00, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>: the think
to either 1 term or 2 terms) and some have no limits. Alan
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2015 Mandela Washington Felllow <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015- mandela-washington.html> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and- leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> & Mexico <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and- leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55- attendees-2016-03-14-en> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25- fellowship-winners>)* - *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.
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Good morning all This is my first post on the list and I must say that I'm impressed by the level of conversations going on and the discussions about current and future leadership. I cannot agree more on the issues of engagement, participation and nurturing a deep bench of future leaders. I look forward to engaging and making a contribution to this noble endeavor. Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 2 Jul 2017, at 3:12 AM, Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
This is a good discussion. It is good to see a follow-up after the General Assembly. Out of curiosity from the comment that was made about not having new leaders, I checked present https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/afralo and previous leaders community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Previous+AFRALO+Regional+Officersommunity.icann.org of AFRALO.
I noted that there are both new and familiar names on both lists. I also observed that most of the leaders 'grew' into another role. For example, someone went from Secretary to Chair to ALAC member. There is a term limit (2 years, re-electable).
I also want to refer to the very recent call for nominations for AFRALO leaders. If you notice from this link https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2017+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections%2C+..., there was no competition. Read: No new names were nominated, therefore there were no elections.
I would like to encourage all of us to actively participate in these processes. If we want to see new names/faces, we should nominate and elect new leaders. But most importantly, we should participate in working groups and in our monthly calls.
Otherwise, I am happy to note that we are discussing this. I am also happy to discuss this further during ROP calls.
Kind regards,
Sarah
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Fatimata Seye Sylla <fsylla@gmail.com> wrote: Hello All,
I am happy to follow this discussion and to see that our GA proposal to bring this discussion into the working group still prevails and seems to be endorsed by all of us.
Arsene made a good point about setting terms and having hard working and committed members stepping in leadership positions. I will continue to call on young members' engagement with a strong gender dimension. Capacity building and coaching of our new members remain a top priority for AFRALO to continue to be a good reference in At-Large.
Best wishes to all of you, Fatimata
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 1, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Beran Dondeh via afralo-rop <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
Dear all,
I would like to add a +1 to Arsene's comments on welcoming good, healthy and open discussion on the topic of term limits.
As he rightly intimated, this is something that has been said but never actually addressed head on. It's about time it is done and what better place than the ROP Working Group.
Looking forward to fruitful discussions.
Beran
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On 29 Jun 2017, at 21:28, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a good conversation which allows some clarifications to be brought, thanks Seun and Alan for your contributions. I am not regularly contributing here but follow most of times the conversations.
I find this to be a good sign that AFRALO members are caring about their RALO by sharing their concern (here through this motion), it is something to encourage, not the other way around. I do encourage healthy conversations around this motion form our colleague.
This can be discussed either here or in the appropriate mailing list as mentionned.
I pesonally do believe we should set terms limit for all offices and set the ALAC seat for 2 terms as well as the rest of our offices. Many people have been talking about the issue of "same people holding offices" but many of us here never step in whenever there is election.
Our reps are doing good job and i believe that's why they are re elected by members here. I do encourage many people to present themselves whenever there are open seats to fill.
2017-06-29 18:28 UTC+02:00, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Okay thanks for the clarification Alan. So in summary we have the current status across RALOs as it concerns their ALAC rep (anyone can if necessary):
AFRALO - No limit NARALO - 2 terms limit LACRALO - 1 term limit APRALO - No limits EURALO - No limits
I hope this can serve as useful information as well for our RALO as we consider this topic.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 6:13 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
LACRALO has had a 1-term limit for RALO-appointed ALAC members ever since their rules were written. The only exception was those members seated prior to the rules being written (they were limited to one term following the adoption of the rules - that is, the rule was not made retroactive). NARALO has a 2-term limit, but if someone serves a partial term due to a resignation or other vacancy, the partial term may or may not count as a term depending on how long it is).
Alan
At 29/06/2017 11:52 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
Hello Alan,
As a follow-up, am actually curious to know which RALO limits ALAC term to 1 as I don't think there is such limit.
Regards
On Jun 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com > wrote: Hello Alan, I believe that is still somewhat inline with my point that there isn't a term limit as per ALAC ROP. Thanks for indicating that some RALO have term limits which addresses my doubt on that part. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 5:35 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote: At 29/06/2017 10:50 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well.
To clarify the facts, the ALAC Rules of Procedure has no term limits for ALAC Members. Some RALOs limit the number of consecutive terms (I think to either 1 term or 2 terms) and some have no limits. Alan
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Alan Greenberg -
Ali Hussein -
Arsène Tungali -
Beran Dondeh -
Fatimata Seye Sylla -
Sarah Kiden -
Seun Ojedeji