MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
Dear Silvia,Hope this meets you well?Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information.I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward.Thanking you for your assistanceBest Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
Dear Pastor Peters, Thanks for your mail, as you are a member of the ROP working group, It may be good for this to be put on our agenda at the next meeting (a suggestion to the Chair). That said, a few comments on this proposal: 1. Currently the AFRALO offices are term limited and that is 2 terms. I do think that is reasonably appropriate. 2. AFRALO rep to NOMCOM has a 2 terms limit and I also do think that is fine as well. 3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well. 4. Membership in any CCWG or WG lifetime is dependent on the specific charter of the group and I certainly do not think this should be restricted by any means. I also do not think any past officer should be denied access to be nominated for other offices different from the one he/she is term limited on. We should leave it to the ALSes to determine who they want to serve and represent them in the various positions. Overall it was nice meeting you and other ALS reps in Jobourg and I do like to request that we keep the interactions going online for both administrative and ICANN policy issues. Wishing you all a safe trip back home. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 4:14 PM, "NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via afralo-rop" < afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726 <01438%20729726>, +234-8052658024 <+234%20805%20265%208024>,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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Thank you Seun for your inputs. Of course I have forwarded the document to the WG and await the calls for a meeting for further discussion. As desirable as the right(?) of any member to contest for another elective position apart from the one previously held is the disadvantage of conscripting the space for other members who also have something to offer to the community and ICANN. Politically and morally speaking, anyone who has enjoyed a TWO terms tenure in any representational capacity should honourable give way for others to seek election and not close the gap. That is the essence. All the Regions though I speak for AFRALO have large member followership and more are still coming which will help to advance the visibility of ICANN all over the world, and it should be encouraging for all to have a sense of belonging when they can be inspired(encouraged) to be more participatory. All the same, it is open for debate and discussion and wisdom will prevail. It was nice meeting everyone again and new members after London 2014. We shall be seeing more of each other from now on.Best Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org On Thursday, June 29, 2017, 7:50:07 AM PDT, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Pastor Peters, Thanks for your mail, as you are a member of the ROP working group, It may be good for this to be put on our agenda at the next meeting (a suggestion to the Chair). That said, a few comments on this proposal: 1. Currently the AFRALO offices are term limited and that is 2 terms. I do think that is reasonably appropriate. 2. AFRALO rep to NOMCOM has a 2 terms limit and I also do think that is fine as well. 3. The ALAC seat isn't term limited and as ALAC operates on it's own rule. I am not sure we can limit it at RALO level. Nevertheless it's something worth considering a work around on. I certainly think 2 terms limit may be appropriate as well. 4. Membership in any CCWG or WG lifetime is dependent on the specific charter of the group and I certainly do not think this should be restricted by any means. I also do not think any past officer should be denied access to be nominated for other offices different from the one he/she is term limited on. We should leave it to the ALSes to determine who they want to serve and represent them in the various positions. Overall it was nice meeting you and other ALS reps in Jobourg and I do like to request that we keep the interactions going online for both administrative and ICANN policy issues. Wishing you all a safe trip back home. Regards On Jun 29, 2017 4:14 PM, "NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via afralo-rop" <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: Dear Silvia,Hope this meets you well?Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information.I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward.Thanking you for your assistanceBest Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org ______________________________ _________________ afralo-rop mailing list afralo-rop@atlarge-lists. icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/ listinfo/afralo-rop
ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION Hello everyone, By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is? 1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation? In short, what are the real concerns? Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards. Can we understand that there are special arrangements? This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing. However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others. We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN. We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united. FRANCAIS Bonjour à tous, En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème? 1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation? Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations? Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises. Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers? Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante. Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres. Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN. Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis. 2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726 <+44%201438%20729726>, +234-8052658024 <+234%20805%20265%208024>,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards. AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all. Regards,Adetokunbo AbiolaNigerian Internet Users Coalition From: BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> To: NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; "victor.ciza@gmail.com" <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce <alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55 Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION Hello everyone, By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is? 1. Are these leadership positions?2. Are these people problems?3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance?4. Is this the length of representation? In short, what are the real concerns? Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards. Can we understand that there are special arrangements? This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing. However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others. We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN. We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united. FRANCAIS Bonjour à tous, En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème? 1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes?3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique?4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation? Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations? Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises. Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers? Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante. Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres. Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN. Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis. 2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>: Dear Silvia,Hope this meets you well?Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information.I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward.Thanking you for your assistanceBest Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann. org/mailman/listinfo/afri- discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/ mistica/english/emec/method_ emec/presentation.html#anexo1 -- BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE +243813684512 +243998983491 SKYPE ID: b.schombe twitter: @akimambo blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a...
thanks Abiola, You may know the node of the problem. Can you be more explicit? 2017-07-04 16:49 GMT+01:00 TYokunbo Abiola <tyokunbo@yahoo.co.uk>:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
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ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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Distinugished colleagues, I would like to echo Fatimata and Seun's comments. Let us refer the issue back to the ROP working group. I would also like to propose that we adopt a win win approach for all where the majority has the way and the minority has their say as we have demonstrated in our debates. Most of our activities are voluntary and require a lot of investment in time and resources, i would suggest that we pay attention to such factors as well. Best Regards On 7/4/17, BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks Abiola,
You may know the node of the problem. Can you be more explicit?
2017-07-04 16:49 GMT+01:00 TYokunbo Abiola <tyokunbo@yahoo.co.uk>:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
------------------------------ *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> *To:* NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com> *Cc:* Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; " victor.ciza@gmail.com" <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG < afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce < alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55 *Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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Dear Abiola, Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused. That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit. I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join. Thank you, Sarah On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
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*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent. 2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>:
Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
------------------------------ *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com>
*To:* NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com> *Cc:* Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; " victor.ciza@gmail.com" <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG < afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce < alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55
*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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Dear All I may have problems writing in French But I am very sure even my Franchophone brothers and sisters could easily do a Google translation of my motion and understand both content and context. Having said that I am bemused by the pretence and a presupossed query of what the problem is. There is no problem. What I have just done is draw attention to a progressive need for AFRALO to move forward and stop dancing around in circles. I took the pain to do an historical review of Afralo activities, leadership and representation which in all intent and purposes is unhealthy where a continent of more than 50 countries is governed and represented by sane set of people in the past 10years. I am no sycophant nor a boot licker. My religion forbid that. I am not the type who saw the king naked and yet told him he had the most beautiful dress on! Some of us are pretenders and just because of the influence commanded by certain people with Afralo are ready to pretend and look the other way and end up complaining and grumbling behind. That is not my style. The points I raised have generated positive interest in other ralos apart from AFRALO. In any case the motion is clear for any to read and understand. We will debate it in the WG and other groups within ICANN. Change is dynamic and it must be embraced by all no matter how unpalatable. God bless you all. Pastor Peters Omoragbon Permanent U.N. Rep UNFCCC Designated Contact Person Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 17:36, BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE<baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent. 2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>: Dear Abiola, Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused. That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit. I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join. Thank you, Sarah On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org> wrote: I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards. AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all. Regards,Adetokunbo AbiolaNigerian Internet Users Coalition From: BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> To: NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org>; "victor.ciza@gmail.com" <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists. icann.org>; ALAC Announce <alac-announce@atlarge-lists. icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55 Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION Hello everyone, By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is? 1. Are these leadership positions?2. Are these people problems?3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance?4. Is this the length of representation? In short, what are the real concerns? Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards. Can we understand that there are special arrangements? This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing. However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others. We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN. We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united. FRANCAIS Bonjour à tous, En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème? 1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes?3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique?4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation? Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations? Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises. Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers? Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante. Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres. Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN. Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis. 2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org>: Dear Silvia,Hope this meets you well?Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information.I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward.Thanking you for your assistanceBest Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann. org/mailman/listinfo/afri- discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/ mistica/english/emec/method_ emec/presentation.html#anexo1 -- BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE +243813684512 +243998983491 SKYPE ID: b.schombe twitter: @akimambo blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann. org/mailman/listinfo/afri- discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/ mistica/english/emec/method_ emec/presentation.html#anexo1 ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann. org/mailman/listinfo/afri- discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/ mistica/english/emec/method_ emec/presentation.html#anexo1 -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE +243813684512 +243998983491 SKYPE ID: b.schombe twitter: @akimambo blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr
ENGLISH That is why I was asking that the problem be made clear so that we can understand where the problem lies. Thank you Pastor Peters for being clear about having located the issue of your concerns. Thank you also for your consideration of us. If that should be the problem as presented, I am afraid that this level of debate becomes lighter and takes on more subjective aspects. I said so well that it is not the motion that is embarrassing, but the situation as described in the motion is increasingly embarrassing. Thank you for puncturing the abscess. This allows us to narrow the debate and to exchange on these facts which risk poisoning the climate of conviviality that has always reigned within our great family AFRALO. But let us not forget that moral character and dignity are values that are part of a personality. The appearance is often misleading. FRANCAIS Voilà pourquoi je demandais que le problème soit posé clairement pour nous permettre de comprendre où se trouve le noeud du problème. Merci Pasteur Peters d'avoir été clair pour avoir situé l'enjeu de tes préoccupations. Merci aussi des considérations que vous couvez à notre égard. Si tel doit être le problème tel que présenté, je crains que ce niveau de débat devient plus léger et prend des allures subjectives. Je l'avais si bien dit que ce n'est pas la motion qui est embarrassante mais la situation telle que décrite dans lamotion est de plus en plus embarrassante. Merci d'avoir crevé l'abcès. Cela nous permet de circonscrire le débat et d'echanger sur ces faits qui risquent d'empoisonner le climat de convivialité qui a toujours règné au sein de notre grande famille AFRALO. Mais n'oublions pas que le caractère moral et la dignité sont des valeurs qui font partie d'une personnalité. L'apparence étant souvent trompeuse. 2017-07-04 18:10 GMT+01:00 peters omoragbon <petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk>:
Dear All
I may have problems writing in French But I am very sure even my Franchophone brothers and sisters could easily do a Google translation of my motion and understand both content and context.
Having said that I am bemused by the pretence and a presupossed query of what the problem is.
There is no problem. What I have just done is draw attention to a progressive need for AFRALO to move forward and stop dancing around in circles.
I took the pain to do an historical review of Afralo activities, leadership and representation which in all intent and purposes is unhealthy where a continent of more than 50 countries is governed and represented by sane set of people in the past 10years.
I am no sycophant nor a boot licker. My religion forbid that. I am not the type who saw the king naked and yet told him he had the most beautiful dress on!
Some of us are pretenders and just because of the influence commanded by certain people with Afralo are ready to pretend and look the other way and end up complaining and grumbling behind. That is not my style.
The points I raised have generated positive interest in other ralos apart from AFRALO.
In any case the motion is clear for any to read and understand.
We will debate it in the WG and other groups within ICANN.
Change is dynamic and it must be embraced by all no matter how unpalatable.
God bless you all.
Pastor Peters Omoragbon Permanent U.N. Rep UNFCCC Designated Contact Person
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On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 17:36, BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent.
2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>:
Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
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*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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Hi all, Please add me in the ROP group. warm regards from Lomé Olévié Le 4 juil. 2017 16:37, "BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE" <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent.
2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>:
Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
------------------------------ *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com>
*To:* NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com> *Cc:* Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; " victor.ciza@gmail.com" <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG < afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce < alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55
*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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Please add me too in the ROP GROUP BEST Le 4 juil. 2017 19:25, "Olévié Kouami" <olivierkouami@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi all, Please add me in the ROP group. warm regards from Lomé Olévié
Le 4 juil. 2017 16:37, "BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE" <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent.
2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>:
Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
------------------------------ *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com>
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*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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I want to part of the group as well. Regards,Adetokunbo Abioa From: Gabriel BOMBAMBO Boseko <gbombambo@gmail.com> To: Olévié Kouami <olivierkouami@gmail.com> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Victor Ciza <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>; AFRALO ROP WG <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce <alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 11:50 Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO Please add me too in the ROP GROUPBEST Le 4 juil. 2017 19:25, "Olévié Kouami" <olivierkouami@gmail.com> a écrit : Hi all,Please add me in the ROP group.warm regards from LoméOlévié Le 4 juil. 2017 16:37, "BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE" <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> a écrit : Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent. 2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>: Dear Abiola, Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused. That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit. I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join. Thank you, Sarah On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org> wrote: I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards. AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all. Regards,Adetokunbo AbiolaNigerian Internet Users Coalition From: BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> To: NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org>; "victor.ciza@gmail.com" <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.ican n.org>; ALAC Announce <alac-announce@atlarge-lists.i cann.org>; Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55 Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION Hello everyone, By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is? 1. Are these leadership positions?2. Are these people problems?3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance?4. Is this the length of representation? In short, what are the real concerns? Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards. Can we understand that there are special arrangements? This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing. However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others. We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN. We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united. FRANCAIS Bonjour à tous, En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème? 1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes?3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique?4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation? Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations? Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises. Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers? Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante. Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres. Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN. Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis. 2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org>: Dear Silvia,Hope this meets you well?Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information.I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward.Thanking you for your assistanceBest Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann. org/mailman/listinfo/afri- discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/ mistica/english/emec/method_ emec/presentation.html#anexo1 -- BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE +243813684512 +243998983491 SKYPE ID: b.schombe twitter: @akimambo blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.ica nn.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.or g/mailman/listinfo/afri-discus s Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistic a/english/emec/method_emec/pre sentation.html#anexo1 ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.ica nn.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.or g/mailman/listinfo/afri-discus s Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistic a/english/emec/method_emec/pre sentation.html#anexo1 -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE +243813684512 +243998983491 SKYPE ID: b.schombe twitter: @akimambo blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.ica nn.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.or g/mailman/listinfo/afri-discus s Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistic a/english/emec/method_emec/ presentation.html#anexo1 ______________________________ _________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists. icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann. org/mailman/listinfo/afri- discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/ mistica/english/emec/method_ emec/presentation.html#anexo1 _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a...
Can i join the working group as well? ----------------- Arsène Tungali, about.me/ArseneTungali +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
On Jul 4, 2017, at 8:53 PM, TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I want to part of the group as well.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abioa
From: Gabriel BOMBAMBO Boseko <gbombambo@gmail.com> To: Olévié Kouami <olivierkouami@gmail.com> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Victor Ciza <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>; AFRALO ROP WG <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce <alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 11:50 Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
Please add me too in the ROP GROUP BEST
Le 4 juil. 2017 19:25, "Olévié Kouami" <olivierkouami@gmail.com> a écrit : Hi all, Please add me in the ROP group. warm regards from Lomé Olévié
Le 4 juil. 2017 16:37, "BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE" <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> a écrit : Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent.
2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>: Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org> wrote: I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
From: BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com>
To: NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org>; "victor.ciza@gmail.com" <victor.ciza@gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.ican n.org>; ALAC Announce <alac-announce@atlarge-lists.i cann.org>; Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55
Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org>: Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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Good morning, Kindly add me in ROP working group. Thanks Remmy Nweke ____ REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] (DigitalSENSE Business News <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria> PC Summit 2017 <http://www.pcsummit.com.ng>, December 7-8 @Federal Palace, Victoria Island, Lagos. *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>) _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com> wrote:
Can i join the working group as well?
----------------- Arsène Tungali, about.me/ArseneTungali +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
On Jul 4, 2017, at 8:53 PM, TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I want to part of the group as well.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abioa
------------------------------ *From:* Gabriel BOMBAMBO Boseko <gbombambo@gmail.com> *To:* Olévié Kouami <olivierkouami@gmail.com> *Cc:* Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Victor Ciza < victor.ciza@gmail.com>; NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS < nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>; AFRALO ROP WG < afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce < alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 11:50 *Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
Please add me too in the ROP GROUP BEST
Le 4 juil. 2017 19:25, "Olévié Kouami" <olivierkouami@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi all, Please add me in the ROP group. warm regards from Lomé Olévié
Le 4 juil. 2017 16:37, "BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE" <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> a écrit :
Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent.
2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>:
Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
------------------------------ *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com>
*To:* NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>> *Cc:* Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; "victor.ciza@gmail.com" < victor.ciza@gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.ican n.org <afralo-rop@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; ALAC Announce <alac-announce@atlarge-lists.i cann.org <alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; Peters Omoragbon < petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55
*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.ic ann.org <afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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I think this working group must remain open to all because it is virtually all members who are intersted. 2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>:
Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
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*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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I think we need the full complement of this house to debate this, so the group should be open to all. Regards, Roger Baah On Jul 5, 2017 8:34 AM, "BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE" <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com> wrote: I think this working group must remain open to all because it is virtually all members who are intersted. 2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>:
Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
------------------------------ *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com>
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*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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I think this working group must remain open to all because it is virtually all members who are intersted. 2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden@gmail.com>:
Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused.
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit.
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join.
Thank you,
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
Regards, Adetokunbo Abiola Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
------------------------------ *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe@gmail.com>
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*Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions? 2. Are these people problems? 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance? 4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes? 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique? 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
Dear Silvia, Hope this meets you well? Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information. I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward. Thanking you for your assistance Best
Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo. com <nursesacrosstheborders@yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2@yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
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participants (13)
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Arsène Tungali -
Barrack Otieno -
BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE -
CAFEC RDC -
Gabriel BOMBAMBO Boseko -
NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS -
Olévié Kouami -
peters omoragbon -
Remmy Nweke -
Roger Oteng Baah -
Sarah Kiden -
Seun Ojedeji -
TYokunbo Abiola