As usually you are missing the point(s), totally. Nothing is in the title. And, we like being railroaded... As if we would be heard by a captured working group... el On 2014-09-21, 18:30 , Victor Ndonnang wrote:

Hi Aziz,

Thank you for sharing and my +1 to the “drafting team”.

Once again, I would like to come back on my suggestion of readjusting the title of theme of our jojnt meeting; I know It is not a big deal but It is often said: “Everything is in the title”. As far as the ongoing work is not to transition IANA functions but IANA’s stewardship, I think It is important we let that comes out on the title of our meeting. For this purpose, I suggest once again to edit the title as follow: “IANA Stewardship Transition and ICANN Accountability seen by the African Community”. Sorry for insisting on it and apologize if I’m wrong; may be the USGOV/NTIA announcement has some hidden ramifications or implications with include IANA functions to transition from actual hands to another’s.

Coming back to the document itself, I think the topic of the composition of the IANA Coordination Group has already been discussed and “closed”; so for me the paragraph on our declaration about the “unbalanced composition of the ICG is not important. The ICG’s work is open and open to comments; we should rather recommend that mechanisms are put in place to ensure that every interested parties have a chance to contribute and make their concerns heard moving forward.

Thank you once again.

Best regards,

Victor Ndonnang.

*From:*africann-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net] *On Behalf Of *Aziz Hilali *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:12 AM *To:* AfrICANN list; ALAC Afrique *Subject:* [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of African community

*[English]*

Dear all,

Following my email of 20 August on the theme of our next joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN to be held on ""IANA Transition and ICANN Accountability seen by the African Community”, I am pleased to submit you the draft statement (in French and English) of the meeting to be held in LA, on Wednesday, Oct. 15 (14.00-15.30) https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C....

Would you please provide your comments on this draft (before Friday, September 27, 2014), to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption.

PS: Many thanks to the drafting committee composed of : Fatimata Seye Sylla, Seun Ojedeji, Tijani BEN JEMAA, Hadja Sanon, Aziz Hilali, Ben Fuller, Mohamed El Bashir, Barrack Otieno et Said Mchangama.

*[Français]*

Chers tous,

Suite à mon email du 20 Août sur le thème de notre prochaine réunion conjointe AFRALO/AfrICANN qui se tiendra sur le thème "Transition de l’IANA et Redevabilité de l'ICANN vues par la Communauté Africaine", j’ai le plaisir de vous faire parvenir le projet de déclaration (français et anglais) de la réunion qui aura lieu à LA, le mercredi 15 Octobre (14h00-15h30), https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C....

Je vous prie de nous transmettre vos remarques sur ce projet (avant le vendredi 27 septembre 2014) pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.

PS : Mes vifs remerciements au comité de rédaction composé de : Fatimata Seye Sylla, Seun Ojedeji, Tijani BEN JEMAA, Hadja Sanon, Aziz Hilali, Ben Fuller, Mohamed El Bashir, Barrack Otieno et Said Mchangama.

Best Regards

============================

Aziz Hilali Chair of AFRALO

B.P. 68 04, Medinat Al Irfane, Rabat - Maroc Téléphone: + 212. 6 61 40 15 15

=============================

_______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann

-- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/

Looks like you are both in agreement. One question will be; if you think it's captured, what are you contributing to liberate it. @Victor if you are still interested in following up your initial comments, it's been noted accordingly. Cheers! sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos. On 22 Sep 2014 02:37, "Victor Ndonnang" <ndonnang@nvconsulting.biz> wrote:

Sorry, I apologize for that... :-) Best regards, ************ Victor Ndonnang https://twitter.com/VictorNdonnang <https://mobile.twitter.com/VictorNdonnang> ~Sent from my iPhone~

On Sep 21, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na> wrote:

As usually you are missing the point(s), totally.

Nothing is in the title.

And, we like being railroaded...

As if we would be heard by a captured working group...

el

On 2014-09-21, 18:30 , Victor Ndonnang wrote:

Hi Aziz,

Thank you for sharing and my +1 to the “drafting team”.

Once again, I would like to come back on my suggestion of readjusting

the title of theme of our jojnt meeting; I know It is not a big deal but

It is often said: “Everything is in the title”. As far as the ongoing

work is not to transition IANA functions but IANA’s stewardship, I think

It is important we let that comes out on the title of our meeting. For

this purpose, I suggest once again to edit the title as follow: “IANA

Stewardship Transition and ICANN Accountability seen by the African

Community”. Sorry for insisting on it and apologize if I’m wrong; may be

the USGOV/NTIA announcement has some hidden ramifications or

implications with include IANA functions to transition from actual hands

to another’s.

Coming back to the document itself, I think the topic of the composition

of the IANA Coordination Group has already been discussed and “closed”;

so for me the paragraph on our declaration about the “unbalanced

composition of the ICG is not important. The ICG’s work is open and open

to comments; we should rather recommend that mechanisms are put in place

to ensure that every interested parties have a chance to contribute and

make their concerns heard moving forward.

Thank you once again.

Best regards,

Victor Ndonnang.

*From:*africann-bounces@afrinic.net

[mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net <africann-bounces@afrinic.net>] *On Behalf Of *Aziz Hilali

*Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:12 AM

*To:* AfrICANN list; ALAC Afrique

*Subject:* [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of African

community

*[English]*

Dear all,

Following my email of 20 August on the theme of our next joint meeting

AFRALO / AfrICANN to be held on ""IANA Transition and ICANN

Accountability seen by the African Community”, I am pleased to submit

you the draft statement (in French and English) of the meeting to be

held in LA, on Wednesday, Oct. 15 (14.00-15.30)

https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C... .

Would you please provide your comments on this draft (before Friday,

September 27, 2014), to allow us to include them before printing the

final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting

for discussion, modification if any and adoption.

PS: Many thanks to the drafting committee composed of : Fatimata Seye

Sylla, Seun Ojedeji, Tijani BEN JEMAA, Hadja Sanon, Aziz Hilali, Ben

Fuller, Mohamed El Bashir, Barrack Otieno et Said Mchangama.

*[Français]*

Chers tous,

Suite à mon email du 20 Août sur le thème de notre prochaine réunion

conjointe AFRALO/AfrICANN qui se tiendra sur le thème "Transition de

l’IANA et Redevabilité de l'ICANN vues par la Communauté Africaine",

j’ai le plaisir de vous faire parvenir le projet de déclaration

(français et anglais) de la réunion qui aura lieu à LA, le mercredi 15

Octobre (14h00-15h30),

https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C... .

Je vous prie de nous transmettre vos remarques sur ce projet (avant le

vendredi 27 septembre 2014) pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant

d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à

la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.

PS : Mes vifs remerciements au comité de rédaction composé de : Fatimata

Seye Sylla, Seun Ojedeji, Tijani BEN JEMAA, Hadja Sanon, Aziz Hilali,

Ben Fuller, Mohamed El Bashir, Barrack Otieno et Said Mchangama.

Best Regards

============================

Aziz Hilali

Chair of AFRALO

B.P. 68 04, Medinat Al Irfane, Rabat - Maroc

Téléphone: + 212. 6 61 40 15 15

=============================

_______________________________________________

AfrICANN mailing list

AfrICANN@afrinic.net

https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann

-- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/

_______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann

Coming back to the document itself, I think the topic of the composition of the IANA Coordination Group has already been discussed and “closed”; so for me the paragraph on our declaration about the “unbalanced composition of the ICG is not important. The ICG’s work is open and open to comments; we should rather recommend that mechanisms are put in place to ensure that every interested parties have a chance to contribute and make their concerns heard moving forward. I disagree. The unbalanced composition is a main point. We should express our regret despite the fact that it is done and nothing can be done to remediate it. Also, mechanisms to ensure that every interested party can contribute are already decided on, and nothing can be done to change them. This is to express the views of the African Community. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: + 216 41 649 605 Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 Fax: + 216 70 853 376 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Message d'origine----- De : afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Victor Ndonnang Envoyé : dimanche 21 septembre 2014 17:30 À : 'Aziz Hilali'; 'AfrICANN list'; 'ALAC Afrique' Objet : Re: [AFRI-Discuss] [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of African community Hi Aziz, Thank you for sharing and my +1 to the “drafting team”. Once again, I would like to come back on my suggestion of readjusting the title of theme of our jojnt meeting; I know It is not a big deal but It is often said: “Everything is in the title”. As far as the ongoing work is not to transition IANA functions but IANA’s stewardship, I think It is important we let that comes out on the title of our meeting. For this purpose, I suggest once again to edit the title as follow: “IANA Stewardship Transition and ICANN Accountability seen by the African Community”. Sorry for insisting on it and apologize if I’m wrong; may be the USGOV/NTIA announcement has some hidden ramifications or implications with include IANA functions to transition from actual hands to another’s. Coming back to the document itself, I think the topic of the composition of the IANA Coordination Group has already been discussed and “closed”; so for me the paragraph on our declaration about the “unbalanced composition of the ICG is not important. The ICG’s work is open and open to comments; we should rather recommend that mechanisms are put in place to ensure that every interested parties have a chance to contribute and make their concerns heard moving forward. Thank you once again. Best regards, Victor Ndonnang. From: africann-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net] On Behalf Of Aziz Hilali Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:12 AM To: AfrICANN list; ALAC Afrique Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Statment of the joint meeting of African community [English] Dear all, Following my email of 20 August on the theme of our next joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN to be held on ""IANA Transition and ICANN Accountability seen by the African Community”, I am pleased to submit you the draft statement (in French and English) of the meeting to be held in LA, on Wednesday, Oct. 15 (14.00-15.30) <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C+15+October+2014+Workspace> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C.... Would you please provide your comments on this draft (before Friday, September 27, 2014), to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption. PS: Many thanks to the drafting committee composed of : Fatimata Seye Sylla, Seun Ojedeji, Tijani BEN JEMAA, Hadja Sanon, Aziz Hilali, Ben Fuller, Mohamed El Bashir, Barrack Otieno et Said Mchangama. [Français] Chers tous, Suite à mon email du 20 Août sur le thème de notre prochaine réunion conjointe AFRALO/AfrICANN qui se tiendra sur le thème "Transition de l’IANA et Redevabilité de l'ICANN vues par la Communauté Africaine", j’ai le plaisir de vous faire parvenir le projet de déclaration (français et anglais) de la réunion qui aura lieu à LA, le mercredi 15 Octobre (14h00-15h30), <https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C+15+October+2014+Workspace> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Wednesday%2C.... Je vous prie de nous transmettre vos remarques sur ce projet (avant le vendredi 27 septembre 2014) pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption. PS : Mes vifs remerciements au comité de rédaction composé de : Fatimata Seye Sylla, Seun Ojedeji, Tijani BEN JEMAA, Hadja Sanon, Aziz Hilali, Ben Fuller, Mohamed El Bashir, Barrack Otieno et Said Mchangama. Best Regards ============================ Aziz Hilali Chair of AFRALO B.P. 68 04, Medinat Al Irfane, Rabat - Maroc Téléphone: + 212. 6 61 40 15 15 ============================= _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a... --- Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection avast! Antivirus est active. http://www.avast.com