Re: [AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in BUENOS AIRES"African views on the Proposal of the Governance of Internet uniqueidentifiers"
Dear Aziz and all, May I add a paragraph to the accountability part of our statement before the last bullet point in the following mannar: • All the accountability mechanisms should avoid leading to courts as much as possible. In fact, we do not accept that ICANN affairs be managed by courts in whatever jurisdiction. ICANN is an example of a triving multistakeholder community and we should endeavor to protect that as much as possible. Added paragraph: • The final aim of the CCWG work is to enhance the Accountability to the community. The membership model would enhance the accountability of the board to the ICANN members, but how we can ensure that the ICANN members will be accountable to the community???? With the membership model, we move the accountability issue from the board to the members, but we do not solve it. • The community group that will act on behalf of the respective community stakeholders to exercise the powers mentioned in the report should be as inclusive as possible. We prefer equal footing for all SOs and ACs, but can live with the composition proposed in the report. Finally, we reiterate our support to the CWG-Stewardship and the CCWG-Accountability groups and appreciate the progress made so far. However, we think that their proposals need further work to find the right multi-stakeholder solution for the stewardship transition and the best ways to empower the community using the right means and avoiding ICANN the risk of being weakened or loose its independence, its inclusiveness and its multi-stakeholder nature. Tijani On mer 17/06/15 8:54 , Aziz Hilali <hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr> wrote:
[English] Dear colleagues, AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO/AfrICANN during the ICANN meeting next week in Buenos Aires. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO will be "African views on the Proposal of the Governance of Internet unique identifiers".
You will find attached the draft statement in English (French translation is in progress, it will be sent on the list tomorrow) of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 24 June 2015. Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, June 20,2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption.
[French]
Chers collègues,
AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Points de vue africains sur la proposition de la gouvernance du système des identificateurs uniques de l'Internet".
En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration (la traduction française est en cours de préparation et sera transmise sur la liste demain) de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Buenos Aires le Mercredi 24 Juin 2015.
Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 20 Juin 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.
Best Regards Aziz Hilali AFRALO Chair _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss [1]
Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org [2]
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Dear Aziz, Tijani et al, Please find attached an edited version of the English Document with tracked changes. I would also like to slightly edit Tijani's suggested additions. • The final aim of the CCWG work is to enhance the Accountability to the community. The membership model would enhance the accountability of the board to the ICANN members, but how do we ensure that the ICANN members will be accountable to the community???? With the membership model, we do not solve it but instead move the accountability issue from the board to the members Thank you and regards Beran Gillen On Jun 19, 2015, at 9:02 PM, tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn wrote:
Dear Aziz and all,
May I add a paragraph to the accountability part of our statement before the last bullet point in the following mannar:
• All the accountability mechanisms should avoid leading to courts as much as possible. In fact, we do not accept that ICANN affairs be managed by courts in whatever jurisdiction. ICANN is an example of a triving multistakeholder community and we should endeavor to protect that as much as possible.
Added paragraph:
• The final aim of the CCWG work is to enhance the Accountability to the community. The membership model would enhance the accountability of the board to the ICANN members, but how we can ensure that the ICANN members will be accountable to the community???? With the membership model, we move the accountability issue from the board to the members, but we do not solve it.
• The community group that will act on behalf of the respective community stakeholders to exercise the powers mentioned in the report should be as inclusive as possible. We prefer equal footing for all SOs and ACs, but can live with the composition proposed in the report.
Finally, we reiterate our support to the CWG-Stewardship and the CCWG-Accountability groups and appreciate the progress made so far. However, we think that their proposals need further work to find the right multi-stakeholder solution for the stewardship transition and the best ways to empower the community using the right means and avoiding ICANN the risk of being weakened or loose its independence, its inclusiveness and its multi-stakeholder nature.
Tijani
On mer 17/06/15 8:54 , Aziz Hilali <hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr> wrote:
[English] Dear colleagues, AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO/AfrICANN during the ICANN meeting next week in Buenos Aires. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO will be "African views on the Proposal of the Governance of Internet unique identifiers".
You will find attached the draft statement in English (French translation is in progress, it will be sent on the list tomorrow) of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 24 June 2015. Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, June 20,2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption.
[French]
Chers collègues,
AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Points de vue africains sur la proposition de la gouvernance du système des identificateurs uniques de l'Internet".
En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration (la traduction française est en cours de préparation et sera transmise sur la liste demain) de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Buenos Aires le Mercredi 24 Juin 2015.
Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 20 Juin 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.
Best Regards Aziz Hilali AFRALO Chair _______________________________________________ AFRI-Discuss mailing list AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss [1]
Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org [2]
Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html# anexo1[3]
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