Personally, I think it adds a lot of confusion to have multiple points of entries for a group within ICANN. Especially, how the individual users' representatives within the GNSO will be selected is of crucial importance. For better or for worse, the ALS/RALO/ALAC pyramid has some legitimacy. Either the GNSO duplicates this mechanism, in which case I see no added value or they develop their own. I would first like to hear in some detail which processes the individual user house in GNSO intends to create and that will guarantee the representativeness of its members. We want to avoid a bunch of self-selected individuals with no legitimacy. While I understand the human factors behind this willingness to have individual user representatives within the GNSO, I reaffirm that this is blurring the picture. This "divide and conquer" strategy is actually weakening the individual user representation within ICANN. This is of course very beneficial for other groups, like IPC, registrars and registries. Izumi AIZU wrote, On 3/11/08 06:45:
I am also very much behind, like everyone else, on email. IF someone has read and considered about all emails, then s/he is not really spending time at face-to-face meetings ;-).
I was puzzled when reading the BGC WG report putting that only ALAC is the channel for individual users.
I am inclined to say that - Each SO or AC should choose how to listen and incorporate the voices of the individual users, as a matter of principle, it is preferable to have a clear representation or mechanism put in place at each components. We are not competing, but collaborating.
izumi
2008/10/30 Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>:
I am way behind on my e-mail, and I am not sure if this has already been relayed to the ALAC. I call your attention specifically to the first item. We have previously taken a strong position that the user perspective should be represented in some way through the Non-Commercial Users Stakeholders Group on the GNSO. The Interim report from the BGC ALAC Review Working Group has now put forward a strong position that individual users should NOT be represented on the GNSO.
It is unclear to me exactly what the boundaries are between a group that represents the interest of users, and a group representing users.
I think that we will need to make sure we discuss this in Cairo.
Alan
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:26:42 -0700 From: Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> Subject: [liaison6c] Re: Follow-up on GNSO Restructuring/Improvements
Dear Community Members:
1) Individual Users -- As previously indicated, the ICANN Board has asked for additional community input on the appropriate role and representation of individual Internet users in the GNSO. To further encourage discussion and comment, Staff opened a public comment forum to solicit online input, and provided a document summarizing the issues involved. Please see <http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#gnso-users>. The forum closes on 28 November 2008.
2) Board Seat Elections -- As noted previously, Board members also requested additional community input before making final decisions on the methodology for GNSO elections of Board Seats #13 and #14. Please see the attached background document for more information. Comments are requested by 27 November 2008.
3) Stakeholder Groups -- Attached is a draft template for new Stakeholder Groups. Since the establishment of these Stakeholder Groups is a new endeavor and requires Board approval, Staff is offering a draft template as a starting point for discussion.
4) Constituency Renewal -- Staff is working on a draft template to assist with the development of a streamlined process that will assist with the Board's timely recognition and approval of existing constituencies. It will be emailed shortly to facilitate constituency consideration of how this process should be done.
Please don't hesitate to email me/policy-staff@icann.org with any questions.
Regards, Denise
-- Denise Michel ICANN VP, Policy
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Community Members:
In advance of the 16 Oct. GNSO Council meeting, I wanted to provide everyone with the follow-up action items from the Board's most recent draft GNSO Restructuring Resolution (see draft resolution below and at <http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/prelim-report-01oct08.htm>). I'd be happy to elaborate on these during the Council call, or feel free to email questions to <policy-staff@icann.org>.
1) COUNCIL CHAIR -- The Board adopted the WG-GCR recommendation that the GNSO Council Chair be elected by a vote of 60% of both voting houses and each voting house has the flexibility to create a process for selecting its own Vice Chair. To address questions on whether a "back-up" process was needed in the event that a vote did not yield a Chair, the Board decided to ask the Council to consider this matter. "The Board directs the Council to develop a process for subsequent balloting, if needed, until a Council Chair is duly elected. This process should be developed before the first Chair election of the newly structured Council."
*ACTION: As the Council moves forward with GNSO Improvements implementation, this should be addressed and provided to the Board.
2) BOARD SEATS -- "The Board and General Counsel have outstanding questions about the WG-GCR recommendations regarding Board seat elections and directs Staff to share these with the community and seek additional input."
*ACTION: Staff will post outstanding questions and solicit input shortly.
3) VOTING THRESHOLDS -- The Board adopted all voting thresholds proposed by the WG-GCR Report. Concerns that implementation of GNSO Improvements (e.g. new PDP, working group model, etc) might necessitate additions to, or clarifications of, thresholds, the Board requested that "the GNSO develop any additional voting thresholds or categories that may be needed as part of its proposed GNSO Improvements Implementation Plan to be submitted to the Board for approval." (Note: this draft wording likely will be changed to avoid confusion; the Board expects to receive an overall plan for implementing restructuring; this is separate from the GNSO's effort to create a structure of committees and teams to start the GNSO Improvements implementation work.)
*ACTION: As the Council moves forward with GNSO Improvements implementation, this should be addressed and, if changes or additions are deemed necessary, they should be provided to the Board.
4) NEW/EXISTING CONSTITUENCIES -- The Board acknowledged Staff development of a "Notice of Intent" document for potential new constituencies (*see attached) and directed Staff "to develop a formal petition and charter template that will assist applicants in satisfying the formative criteria (consistent with the ICANN Bylaws) to facilitate the Board's evaluation of petitions to form new constituencies. Staff also is directed to work with the existing GNSO constituencies to design and develop a streamlined process along with appropriate mechanisms that will assist with the Board's timely recognition and approval of existing constituencies".
*ACTION: Attached is a "Notice of Intent" to solicit and publicly share information on entities interested in forming new constituencies, along with a proposed petition and charter template. Staff would appreciate receiving any input you may have by 28 Oct. Staff also is developing for your consideration a draft template for constituencies to use to enable the Board to "renew" constituencies. Since this is a new endeavor, Staff is offering a draft as a starting point for discussion. Staff will collect and share input with the community during the Cairo ICANN meeting.
5) STAKEHOLDER GROUPS ― The Board "reinforced its support for the following principles pertaining to the formation of the new Stakeholder Groups, and requests that all constituency members and other relevant parties comply with the principles included in the BGC Working Group's GNSO Improvements Report approved by the Board in establishing the newly formed structures, including: the need to better represent the wide variety of groups and individuals that compose the global ICANN community, in a structure that can change more easily with the gTLD environment and stakeholders; and the inclusion of new actors/participants, where applicable, and the expansion of constituencies within Stakeholder Groups, where applicable." Further, Staff was directed to work with the GNSO community to develop "a set of streamlined processes (along with appropriate templates, tools, or other mechanisms) that will assist in the formation of these new Stakeholder Groups and also facilitate the Board's subsequent review and approval of those structures." The Board directed that plans for each of the four new Stakeholder Groups be submitted to the Board for consideration at the ICANN Mexico City Board meeting, and the plans "must be reviewed and approved by the Board before a newly structured GNSO Council is seated in June 2009. The Board will consider the need for interim action to fill Council seats in the event that it finds any Stakeholder Group plans to be deficient or delayed."
*ACTION: Staff will provide some initial draft material shortly to support community consideration and discussion.
6) ROLE/REPRESENTATION OF USERS ― The Board requested additional community "dialogue and input on the appropriate role and representation of individual Internet users, including individual commercial and non-commercial Internet users, in the GNSO. Input from the GNSO, the ALAC and At-Large community, and any relevant applicants for new constituencies, would be particularly helpful and should address the inclusion of registrants and individual users in the GNSO in a manner that compliments the ALAC and its supporting structures, and ensures that registrants' and individual Internet users' gTLD interests are effectively represented within the GNSO."
*ACTION: Staff will post a public comment solicitation and will provide background information to encourage community consideration and input to the Board.
7) IMPLEMENTATION TIMETABLE ― The Board amended its previous implementation timetable and directs that the transition to a new bicameral GNSO Council voting structure take place over a phased implementation schedule that begins immediately and ends in June 2009 with the seating of the new Council. The implementation phases will be as follows:
-Phase 1 - GNSO Council restructuring implementation plan submitted in advance of the December 2008 Board Meeting;
- Phase 2 - Existing Constituencies submit confirmation documents to the Board for review in advance of the February 2009 Board Meeting;
- Phase 3 - Stakeholder Groups submit formal plans for Board approval for consideration at the ICANN Mexico City Board meeting; and
- Phase 4 - Stakeholder Groups with plans approved by the Board select Council representatives, and the newly structured GNSO Council is seated by the June 2009 Asia-Pacific ICANN Meeting.
*ACTION ― Staff will assist the GNSO in developing a restructuring implementation plan that the Board expects to receive later this year.
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-- GNSO Restructuring -- (Membership and Leadership Selection:)
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.06), as recommended by the WG-GCR, the Board authorizes a third Council-level non-voting Nominating Committee Appointee to serve on the Council whose presence could preserve an independent aspect on the Council and could provide useful management support as the Council moves toward a working group management function.
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.07), the Board authorizes the GNSO Council to elect a Chair consistent with the recommendation of the WG-GCR - that the GNSO Chair be elected by a vote of 60% of both voting houses and each voting house has the flexibility to create a process for selecting its own Vice Chair. The Board directs the Council to develop a process for subsequent balloting, if needed, until a Council Chair is duly elected. This process should be developed before the first Chair election of the newly structured Council.
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.08), the Board and General Counsel have outstanding questions about the WG-GCR recommendations regarding Board seat elections and directs Staff to share these with the community and seek additional input.
-- GNSO Restructuring -- (Operational/Voting Considerations:)
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.09), the Board adopts all voting thresholds proposed in the WG-GCR Report. The Board requests that the GNSO develop any additional voting thresholds or categories that may be needed as part of its proposed GNSO Improvements Implementation Plan to be submitted to the Board for approval.
-- GNSO Restructuring -- (Stakeholder and Constituency Organizational Concerns:)
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.10), the Board acknowledges Staff's development of the "Notice of Intent" documentation for potential new constituencies and directs Staff to develop a formal petition and charter template that will assist applicants in satisfying the formative criteria (consistent with the ICANN Bylaws) to facilitate the Board's evaluation of petitions to form new constituencies. Staff also is directed to work with the existing GNSO constituencies to design and develop a streamlined process along with appropriate mechanisms that will assist with the Board's timely recognition and approval of existing constituencies.
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.11), the Board reinforces its support for the following principles pertaining to the formation of the new Stakeholder Groups, and requests that all constituency members and other relevant parties comply with the principles included in the BGC Working Group's GNSO Improvements Report approved by the Board in establishing the newly formed structures, including:
- The need to better represent the wide variety of groups and individuals that compose the global ICANN community, in a structure that can change more easily with the gTLD environment and stakeholders.
- The inclusion of new actors/participants, where applicable, and the expansion of constituencies within Stakeholder Groups, where applicable.
It is, further Resolved (2008.10.01.12), that the Board further directs Staff to work with existing constituencies to develop a set of streamlined processes (along with appropriate templates, tools, or other mechanisms) that will assist in the formation of these new Stakeholder Groups and also facilitate the Board's subsequent review and approval of those structures.
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.13), the Board directs that plans for each of the four new Stakeholder Groups, that are consistent with the above principles, be submitted to the Board for consideration at the ICANN Mexico City Board meeting. The plans must be reviewed and approved by the Board before a newly structured GNSO Council is seated in June 2009. The Board will consider the need for interim action to fill Council seats in the event that it finds any Stakeholder Group plans to be deficient or delayed.
-- GNSO Restructuring -- (The Role of Individual Internet Users in the GNSO:)
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.14), The Board requests additional community dialogue and input on the appropriate role and representation of individual Internet users, including individual commercial and non-commercial Internet users, in the GNSO. Input from the GNSO, the ALAC and At-Large community, and any relevant applicants for new constituencies, would be particularly helpful and should address the inclusion of registrants and individual users in the GNSO in a manner that compliments the ALAC and its supporting structures, and ensures that registrants' and individual Internet users' gTLD interests are effectively represented within the GNSO.
-- GNSO Restructuring -- (Implementation Timing:)
It is, Resolved (2008.10.01.15), the Board amends its previous implementation timetable and directs that the transition to a new bicameral GNSO Council voting structure take place over a phased implementation schedule that begins immediately and ends in June 2009 with the seating of the new Council. The implementation phases will be as follows:
Phase 1 - GNSO Council restructuring implementation plan submitted in advance of the December 2008 Board Meeting;
Phase 2 - Existing Constituencies submit confirmation documents to the Board for review in advance of the February 2009 Board Meeting;
Phase 3 - Stakeholder Groups submit formal plans for Board approval for consideration at the ICANN Mexico City Board meeting; and
Phase 4 - Stakeholder Groups with plans approved by the Board select Council representatives, and the newly structured GNSO Council is seated by the June 2009 Asia-Pacific ICANN Meeting.
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