Dear Olivier, Given the support from fellow ALAC members, what would be the follow up on this matter? Will you be sending a correspondence to the NGPC Chair? Best regards, Rinalia ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Holly Raiche" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Date: Oct 4, 2013 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation To: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Cc: "ALAC Working List" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ++ Rinalia, JJS, Evan and Carlton. At least ask for particulars Holly On 03/10/2013, at 10:32 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:
+1 to JJS' advice.
I'm not sure it is a reconsideration we request. I should think what we do is per Rinalia ask for further particulars on the EIU process to fulfill obligations. So list the gaps identified and for each, ask for explicit detailing of the process to mitigate.
-Carlton
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Jean-Jacques Subrenat <jjs@fastmail.fm wrote:
Dear Rinalia,
Why did I not immediately spell out a desirable next step? Being the first to react, I wondered if my stance would be isolated, as has happened to me more than once.
I share your position that we should press the case and request whatever seems necessary and justified.
Jean-Jacques.
----- Mail original ----- De: "Rinalia Abdul Rahim" <rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com> À: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs@fastmail.fm> Cc: "ALAC Working List" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com> Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Octobre 2013 21:32:54 Objet: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation
JJS,
Legality aside, there are gaps in disclosure to the community on various aspects including how the EIU fulfill certain criteria of interest to the ALAC.
The board's letter to the ALAC contains a cut and paste description of the EIU, which we already know and which does not address the gaps.
I am not satisfied with the board's response. It is perfectly fine for them to reject the offer of community expertise and the rationale is understandable, but the concern that led to the drafting of the statement stands.
The question now is as follows: 1. Do we press the case and request for disclosure based on the issues that have been pre-identified in the follow-up correspondence? 2. Should we be cowed into not pressing the case because the action may affect how the Board reacts to future advice on other issues?
Rinalia On Oct 2, 2013 5:10 PM, "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" < jjs@fastmail.fm > wrote:
Olivier & All,
- from a legal standpoint, the process which led to the choice of EIU seems watertight.
- As for ALAC's offer, it is rejected without the NGPC feeling the need to provide even the semblance of an explanation: "The NGPC appreciates the offer made by the ALAC to provide community volunteers to serves as Panel members or advisors. However, the NGPC determined that it would not be appropriate to introduce external parties to the EIU’s evaluation process." In other words, there's nothing to see here, so just move on, you're holding up the traffic.
JJ.
----- Mail original ----- De: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" < ocl@gih.com > À: "ALAC Working List" < alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Octobre 2013 15:25:41 Objet: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation
Dear ALAC members,
please be so kind to find attached the response from the Chair of the Board new gTLD Program Committee (NGPC) to our ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation: http://atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-09aug13-en.htm
Kind regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:15:52 -0700 From: Cherine Chalaby < cherine.chalaby@icann.org > To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond < ocl@gih.com >
On 30/09/2013 20:34, Cherine Chalaby wrote:
Dear Olivier, Please find attached the NGPC response to the ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation. Best regards, Cherine
On 11/08/2013 15:29, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" < ocl@gih.com > wrote:
Att: Steve Crocker - ICANN Chair Cherine Chalaby - Chair of the Board new gTLD Program Committee Committee
Dear Steve, Dear Cherine,
please be so kind to find attached the "ALAC Statement on Community Expertise in Community Priority Evaluation".
This Advice is provided to the Board before ALAC ratification due to its time sensitive nature. It should be read in conjuction with our "ALAC Statement on the Preferential Treatment for Community Applications in String Contention", sent under separate cover. At-Large Staff will confirm results of the ALAC vote when it is concluded.
Please be so kind to confirm receipt and consideration of its contents in the discussions of the Board new gTLD Program Committee.
Best regards,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ALAC Chair
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