Hello all, I get you point Olivier. But our only weapon to gain something in the discussion is to express the possibility that we will not agree. If At-Large says, anyhow we will agree, unfortunately we don¹t have much forces. All the best Sébastien Bachollet +33 6 07 66 89 33 Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/ Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien@bachollet.com> De : Olivier Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> Date : lundi 1 juin 2015 19:07 À : Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Cc : ALAC <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Objet : Re: [ALAC] Questions on Accountability Proposals
Hello all,
it is exactly for this reason that I selected "No". The Accountability Process is so important that I would not risk jeopardizing it for something as unworkable and as unlikely as this. Kind regards,
Olivier
Le 31/05/2015 19:29, Alan Greenberg a écrit :
Perhaps the logic is similar, but the implications if the ALAC were to take such a position an possibly jeopardize the accountability measures being adopted and thus the IANA transition are not insignificant.
Alan
At 31/05/2015 01:00 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Not exactly opposite, Alan. Olivier did qualify his NO response with " I see no particular harm in a call for something that will, in practice, likely neither work, nor ever be used. If we reach the need for legal enforceability, it means ICANN really is in trouble." which prompted my "Well, What's the point.."
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote: Murray, You cannot fully support the comments of Maureen and Olivier because they answered exactly oppositely to Q3.
Alan
At 31/05/2015 12:15 PM, Murray McKercher wrote:
1. Yes, 2. No 3. Yes
I fully support the comments made by Olivier and Maureen.
Consensus consultation and transparency provide the foundation for democratic process. If ICANN is serious in its dedication to creating a democratic global governance system, then commitment to consensus consultation and transparency is key. Substantive movement towards confrontational legalistic processes may undermine the strategic goals of the organisation and the spirit to which the volunteers are committed.
Murray McKercher
On Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:14 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca > wrote:
Yes, No and No.
At 30/05/2015 10:04 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
1. Do you believe that failing anything else, we must have the ability to remove parts of or all of the Board?
2. With the exception of Board member removal, do we need legal enforceability of can we rely on good faith (and Board member removal if you supported that).
3. If the final CCWG proposal calls for full legal enforceability, is that sufficient reason for the ALAC to not ratify it?
Alan
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