At 22/07/2010 04:59 AM, Adam Peake wrote:
I'm happy to book my own flights, use my credit card so long as ICANN will pay before the bill's due (and when I've done it in the past, before joining ALAC, ICANN was always quick to pay.) And being able to book a few months (2 or 3) in advance would be nice.
Premium economy/upgradeable ticket: I would just prefer not "least cost" and reasonable choice of airline. The opportunity to upgrade does matter -- some of us fly a lot and it's exhausting. Airmiles and "status" in the airline club do mater: Anyone from At Large (about 90% I guess) eligible for this is going to be flying 3 times/year, often long haul. Getting even on the lowest rung of a mileage plan can help with checkin, lounges etc.
I am not sure that ICANN should need to be concerned with airline points, but frequent flyer status is another thing altogether. I have had my butt saved during irregular operations which I know would not have happened if I was not a frequent flyer with the airline alliance. And yes, even just being able to check in without huge lines, even if flying in coach, takes a lot of the pain out of travel.
Economy plus even on United is better than the alternative. Most airlines now seem to have some kind of premium economy.
Expenses: happy with per diem, but I think "terminal expenses" (travel to and from home/airport) should be paid separately.
I think that this has been addressed by the exception process, but most of us have not pressed the issue unless the costs were really large. Bottom line is that as a volunteer, you should not have to pay out-of-pocket to attend the meeting. This is a good issue to add. Alan
Adam
Perhaps I am missing something. My proposal was that the traveller be able to optionally book their own flights and that would require reimbursement. If you want to use ICANN's travel agent and have them pay directly, that is also provided for. And I am suggesting that they continue using per diem instead of claims.
Alan
At 21/07/2010 04:31 PM, Gareth Shearman wrote:
I'm opposed to having to submit claims after the fact for either.
Gareth
On 2010-07-21, at 12:13 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
Do you mean submit claims instead of per diem, or for air travel??
Alan
At 21/07/2010 01:52 PM, Gareth Shearman wrote:
Very thoughtful contribution, Alan.
I certainly like the comment about possible slightly improved seating arrangements but I would be opposed to any requirement for having to submit claims - been there, done that.
Gareth
On 2010-07-21, at 10:42 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Very well worded, Alan.
D
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-----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:52 PM To: ALAC Working List Subject: [ALAC] Fwd: ICANN Volunteer Air Travel proposal
Following is a message that I have just sent to ICANN's Chief Financial Officer, Kevin Wilson. As noted, it was sent purely on my own behalf, although it was very briefly discussed at this week's ExCom meeting and there was general support. I suggest that at our meeting next week, the ALAC decide whether there is any interest in adopting this proposal, or something similar, as an ALAC statement.
Given that time during our meetings is always very tight, I would suggest that any comments (negative or positive) be made on the mailing list prior to the meeting.
Alan
> To: Kevin Wilson <kevin.wilson@icann.org> > From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> > Subject: ICANN Volunteer Air Travel proposal > > Dear Kevin, > > At the ALAC Executive Committee wrap-up meeting in Brussels, you > confirmed what we already knew - that the current process for travel > support was unwieldy and expensive for ICANN and many (or perhaps > most) of the volunteer travelers were unhappy with the experience and results. > > Since you agree that the current process was less than optimal, and > I suspect that you would agree that minor tweaks are not likely to > fix the problems, I offer a new approach. I think that it may > address the overall concerns that ICANN has regarding fiduciary > responsibility while putting more control in the hands of the travelers. > > In short, I am suggesting that you optionally allow travelers to > make their own air travel arrangements, but subject to a number of > constraints. I am also offering one variant that will maximize the > benefit to ICANN and its constituent units of the budgeted travel funds. > > I believe that you will still need an "official" travel agent. I am > sure that many travelers will be happy to use them if the process > were streamlined. Moreover, they will play an essential role in > ensuring that the overall process costs are "reasonable", which > should be a prime the target. I do not know if you currently use the > same travel agency for staff travel as you do for volunteer travel, > but I would suggest that doing so maximizes the agent's desire to > keep ICANN happy on all counts, and guarantees them a substantial > amount of guaranteed business. > > I support the current allocation of travel by "slots" allocated per > group per meeting, but with an important variant I will discuss > later in this note. > > 0. In the interest of transparency, I would suggest that whatever > air travel rules are used be applied equally to Board > members/liaisons as well as other volunteer travelers. > > 1. Travel is based on economy or business class as per the current > rules. However, for long haul travel (flights over 6 hours or > overall travel time over 18 hours), I suggest that booking on > premium economy be allowed. Premium economy includes few of the real > perks of business class, but does afford a modest increase in > passenger comfort. > > 2. Prior to starting travel for any given event, your travel agent > should compile a list of "ball-park" air fares for the list of > cities typically used by ICANN travelers. The list might include > 50-60 cities but based on my personal experiences, it should not > take much time or effort to compile. I acknowledge that doing this > well will require a good travel agent who understands the issues > related to travel from and to locations that are "unusual" in the > sense of traditional business travel. If some needed cities are > omitted, they can be added later. Estimates should be based on fares > of regularly schedules "business oriented" airlines. By that I > exclude charter airlines, fares provided by consolidators and fares > offered by airlines that focus on vacation and tour-package > travelers - all of whom tend to provide very poor service to recover > from irregular operations. The estimate should include the service > fee that would be charged by the agent if they did the booking. > > 3. I recommend that there still be an "exception" policy to handle > requests outside of the constraints described here, but there should > be far fewer of them. > > 4. Hotel nights and per diem (if used - see later) should be based > on the need to be sufficiently rested for the first scheduled > meeting. I have included details of such scheduling in previous > messages, and can do so again, but I will not clutter this note with > such details. In short, the person should be allowed to arrive early > enough to get a full night's sleep the night before their first > meeting. For venues where flights only arrive in the evening, this > may mean that they be allowed to arrive a day early. > > 5. Hotel nights and per diem should be based on departures that > allow the participant to attend all scheduled meetings. This should > include the ability to stay in their room until a reasonable number > of hours prior to flight time. Both this rule and the prior one are > equivalent to the "reasonable" constraint placed on staff travelers, > and volunteers should be offered no less. > > 6. Air travel fairs up the $300 or 10% (which ever is greater) above > the estimate should be allowed. The $300 figure is what was used for > a number of years and (as far as I understand) resulted in a higher > level of traveler satisfaction and was not an unreasonable average > burden for ICANN. I have added the 10% to accommodate similar issues > for those travelers where business class is allowed. > > 7. For those travelers who can provide their own air travel at > substantially below that of the estimate (perhaps the same $300 or > 10%), ICANN should be willing to provide travel advances to pay for the ticket. > > 8. If a traveler needs to arrive early or late due to the lack of > reasonable air options, the hotel and per diem should be covered by > ICANN. There will be relatively few such cases and they can be > easily audited or verified. Any such "extensions" are subject to > audit by ICANN with the penalty being permanent withdrawal of > self-reservation privileges. > > 9. If there is a substantial amount to be saved on airfare by > scheduling an earlier arrival or later departure, such schedules > should be allowed with ICANN paying the additional hotel and per > diem, but only if the net savings is at least the greater of $300 > or 10% of the original estimate. If making their own reservations, > the traveler must document such savings. It is possible that the > traveller may not be working for those days, but ICANN is still > coming out ahead! > > 10. For reservations made by the traveler, unless an exemption has > been granted, ICANN will reimburse no more that the lesser of the > airfare paid, converted into US$, or the original estimate plus the > greater of $300 or 10%. > > 11. I suggest a variation of the strict slot principle. > Specifically, that the total airfare per group be compared to that > budgeted (with allowance for business class travel granted for > medical or size reasons), and that the group be allowed to use any > significant savings for other pre-approved travel purposes (either > to allow additional people to attend later ICANN meetings or for > other events that support the mission of the group. For Board > members, this should probably be tallied on an individual basis. > > 12. I would suggest a *reasonable* deadline for submitting travel > expenses with a commitment by ICANN to pay promptly after submission > if the deadline is met. I would be happy to comment on "reasonable". > > Although not related to air travel, it could be that reimbursing > real and reasonable expenses instead of per diems would result in a > net savings to ICANN, but I question whether this is worth the > additional staff time required to administrate it, or the grief that > will be caused by the occasional rejection of claims. > > I am submitting this proposal on my own behalf, but with the general > support of the ALAC Executive Committee. The proposal will be > discussed at the ALAC meeting next week, and it is possible that the > ALAC as a whole may endorse this or a similar proposal.
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