Hello All, In any democratic set up, howsoever evolved, it is necessary to allow the Executive the necessary flexibility to act on behalf of the organization. The Executive is, after all, elected, and the election implies an overall mandate and implies that the group has trust in the Executive. Should the group insist on a vote every time the Executive wants to order a box of paper clips or wait for a consensus before calling the fire department? ALAC meets once a month, sometimes a little more frequently. The constituents are volunteers who have various commitments. The group is geographically apart and relies on a conference line which invariably has audio problems. And the meetings can't last for anything more than 90 minutes. How many reviews, resolutions, action items and other matters can be discussed and voted upon, assuming that everyone attending the meetings are thoroughly educated on all agenda items, have read all preparatory papers and related documentation ? Unless we trust the Executive to take decisions as and when necessary, in the interest of ALAC, on bahalf of ALAC, it is going to be an ineffective, bureaucratic and lethargic body that would cease to function effectively. Besides, in any organization, local or international, small or big, the leadership takes the lead, takes decisions and it is implied in the election of the leader in the first place. What Cheryl has sought to do is to formalize this unspoken process for greater transparency and why should we have so much dissent over this? Sivasubramanian Muthusamy On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:24 PM, carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com
wrote:
Dear All:
After yesterday teleconference and having the desition to ratify the Ex Com, and to be clear, I want to say that I'm not against Ex Com, but yes with the procedure in order to ratify it, because IMHO was at least so fast and not careful.
And I think we should be extremely cautious when it comes to translate it into the ALAC OP, because we need define with surgical presicion:
*what are the issues on which can act?, *which are important matters?, *what are urgent matters? and * if this does not mean the concentration of decisions which correspond to ALAC? (this is my biggest concern).
what will happen if the desition takes by Ex Com are not ratify by ALAC? *what happen if there are not consensus into Ex Com. and it occurs to me several others questions.
I hope, we will do ok. my two cents
Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -*54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423www.derechoytecnologia.com.arhttp:// ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:46:08 -0500> To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> From: alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: [ALAC] Motions with respect to the Ex-Com> > Here are formally worded motions which I believe capture the intent > of the discussion at the meeting just ended. If I have erred, please correct.> > Alan> > ----------->
Whereas the ALAC has had a de facto an Executive Committee composed > of ALAC Officers for the past year;> > Whereas, it is at times necessary for the ALAC to take action without > sufficient time to formally engage the entire ALAC and hold a vote;> > Therefore I move that:> > 1. The ALAC create a 4-member Executive Committee composed of the > four ALAC Officers. Until such time as a more refined specification > be defined, the Executive Committee shall have no powers other than > those explicitly granted by the ALAC, save that in urgent situations, > the Executive Committee may make decisions on behalf of the ALAC, > such decisions communicated to the ALAC prior to or at the time of > decision, and to be ratified at the next ALAC meeting.> > -----------------------> > Whereas last year's de facto Executive Committee included Officers > from four or the five ICANN regions;> > Whereas this present year's Officers represent four of the five ICANN regions;> > Whereas in keeping with ALAC and ICANN principles, it is felt that > there is a benefit in all five regions participating in an Executive Committee;> > Therefore I move that:> > 1. The ALAC expand the Executive Committee to five people. The > Executive Committee shall be composed of the four ALAC Officers and > one additional ALAC member.> > 2. The ALAC redefine the two positions of Vice-Chair and the position > of Rapporteur, and the associated voting processes to ensure that the > Chair, the two Vice-Chairs, and the Rapporteur all represent > different ICANN regions, the detailed Rules of Procedures to be > approved prior to the 2009 Officer elections;> > 3. Following the election of the four officers, the ALAC shall > nominate and elect an ALAC member from the as-yet un-represented > ICANN region to the fifth Executive Committee position.> >
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