In this case, it is a statement that I believe we would have approved in the meeting if sufficient time were available.<
Agree and support. BB -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:59 AM To: Alan Greenberg Cc: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness Alan's statement seems like a concise and logical extension of a sound policy to which the Board has already agreed. I think it would be effective if ALAC the committee were able to respond on the time-frame suggested, even if we simultaneously call for public expression of further considerations and propose to supplement the statement if necessary. Thanks for the rapid follow-up, Alan. --Wendy Alan Greenberg wrote:
I understand the general need. In this case, it is a statement that I believe we would have approved in the meeting if sufficient time were available. Is there some beleif that there will be an large demand for no openness is allocating Council seats?
Alan
At 10/09/2008 06:59 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
If I may note the conversation that I had with Cheryl, and also with the Staff in relation to this request.
It has become the practice for the At-Large community to have at least a week, and often two weeks, to comment on a draft statement. I have let my colleagues know that asking a global community to respond using a bottom-up process to develop their view cannot really happen in less than several weeks. Where the issue at hand was of particular importance, or on an issue where there was likely to be differences of view, it takes longer than on other subjects.
What I did suggest was that a preliminary response could be developed, subject to community review, for those instances where there was limited time in which a response could be developed.
What I would hope is that the ALAC would not return to developing statements amongst itself and only allowing a handful of days for the ALS community to respond. So many of you have said that it is essential for the grassroots of the At-Large community to become more engaged in policy. May I submit that this goal is not awfully compatible with very short timelines for that same community to be consulted on an issue, especially one of this significance.
On 10/09/2008 10:38, "Sébastien Bachollet" <<sebastien.bachollet@isoc.htm>sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr> wrote:
I support this proposal.
Sébastien Bachollet Président <sebastien.bachollet@isoc.htm>sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr www.egeni.org www.isoc.fr
-----Message d'origine----- De : <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.htm>alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Alan Greenberg Envoyé : mercredi 10 septembre 2008 07:50 À : <ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.htm>ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org Objet : [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness
At its August 28th meeting, the Board approved a number of aspects of GNSO restructuring. Included in its resolution was the following:
"The Board requests that existing constituencies confirm their status with the Board during the intervening time period, and requires constituencies to formally confirm their status every 3 years to ensure that they continue to meet the requirements of Article X, Section 5, subsection 3 of the ICANN Bylaws. This will be an opportunity for existing constituencies to demonstrate compliance with the principles of representativeness, openness, transparency and fairness set forth in the ICANN Bylaws."
This reaffirms and in fact strengthens the Board's oversight of GNSO Constituencies and is in line with a request we made to the Board through our Liaison.
However, it is troubling that the statements are solely in reference to principles of representativeness, openness, transparency and fairness of Constituencies, and not of Stakeholder Groups once they are defined in the Bylaws.
I volunteered to draft a statement to the Board commenting on this and I propose the following statement to be sent to the Board at least one week prior to their meeting of September 30.
I furthermore suggest the following time line for approval: - Comments received by Friday, Sept. 12, 1200 UTC - Revised statement issued and vote called by no later than Monday, Sept. 15, 2008
Alan
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The ALAC notes with pleasure that at its meeting of August 28, 2008, the Board clarified and reaffirmed the requirement that Constituencies within the restructured GNSO meet and continue to meet principles of representativeness, openness, transparency and fairness.
Given that within the restructured GNSO, a principal entity will be the Stakeholders Group, and that it is at this level that Council seats will be allocated amongst its Constituencies, it is critical that the mechanism for such allocation be completely transparent.
Accordingly, the ALAC recommends that when the Bylaws are amended to include references to Stakeholder Groups, that they too are obliged to adhere to similar principles of representativeness, openness, transparency and fairness.
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