Hello Mohamed Every comment is captured in the revised statement. The revised statement is brief and in summarized points. And for convenience the necessary points are shown in the footnote. We don't have to assume that ICANN wouldn't read a few extra lines of inputs from a whole community, especially when conveniently organized as main points and foot notes. The revised comments on this page https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy to be read WITHOUT the line 'With the view to expeditiously complete the IDN related tasks, it is proposed that ICANN incorporates in its agenda for the Seoul meeting a full day of meetings to focus on IDNs, scheduled as inter-constituency meetings attended by invited experts, staff and finance committees to reslove all pending issues related to IDN Policy and pave way for implementation.' as this part is to be taken up separately. Thank you Sivasubramanian Muthusamy Sivasubramanian Muthusamy Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6 Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir@mbash.net>wrote:
As i have posted my comments in the Wiki, i think this statement is very long and could be summarized, specially the point of the IDN ccTLD ICANN processing cost. I don't think it captured the comments done myself or others in the wiki.
Regards, Mohamed
Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
Staff should prepare the vote to go as based on the ORIGINAL version that was out for internal comment i.e. WITHOUT the "With the view to expeditiously complete the IDN related tasks, it is proposed that ICANN incorporates in its agenda for the Seoul meeting a full day of meetings to focus on IDNs, scheduled as inter-constituency meetings attended by invited experts, staff and finance committees to resolve all pending issues related to IDN Policy and pave way for implementation."
What we can do to encourage focus on, and commitment to, implementation as a main theme at the Seoul meeting is to put such a proposal into the introduction and cover message sent with the reviewed and voted on text... Particularly as the author of a draft statement Suva we must avoid the temptation of adding more text just prior to a vote process lest the whole thing end up being delayed if objections are raised... I can however state the additional text as a recommendation or proposal from our IDN Liaison (with whatever support or modification the ALAC wishes to give to it) as an annex to rather than part of the endorsed for vote statement text)
Apologies for any lack of context, conciseness or grammar here but I'm on some major pain killers at the moment after minor surgery and have sat too long looking at my email...
Vanda as Acting ALAC Chair at the moment if this makes no sense to you and the others please over-ride or alter till it does but we need to get the VOTE started ASAP to stay on schedule...
CLO
2009/7/10 Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn@gmail.com>
Hello,
While incorporating comments in the draft comment statement, in the context of "ALAC raises the following comments with a view to contribute to the process of evolving the Plan further as a complete Plan so as to ensure that IDN TLDs are smoothly implemented globally without technical or policy related implementation issues and seamlessly integrated in the domain name system. At the same time ALAC empathizes that all that needs to be examined needs to be examined expeditiously as expressed in the opinion within that 'Fast-track IDN ccTLDs must be implemented as planned, i.e. in Q4 of 2009 as the latest, to meet the "pressing need" of non-ASCII user community", I have added the following statement contextually.
"With the view to expeditiously complete the IDN related tasks, it is proposed that ICANN incorporates in its agenda for the Seoul meeting a full day of meetings to focus on IDNs, scheduled as inter-constituency meetings attended by invited experts, staff and finance committees to resolve all pending issues related to IDN Policy and pave way for implementation."
The statement with changes is at page https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy. Apart from non-substantive, structural changes in the process of merging comments with the original draft comment statement, the above addition related to focused inter-constituency meetings on IDN TLDs at the next ICANN meeting is an important addition that DID NOT form part of the draft comment while it was open for alac comments during the last 7 days. Added contextually to reconcile the need for urgency and the necessity for the required further work.
I hope this is permissible post comment period, and be accepted as part of the statement to vote.
Thank you.
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy < isolatedn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello CLO,
I have incorporate the comments and prepared a more concise comment as
the
ALAC comment on the 3rd revision of the Draft Implementation Plan for IDN ccTLDs. This is at page https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy.
By a copy of this message to staff I am requesting that this may please
be
copied to the alac docs page and anywhere else as may be required or
emailed
to initiate the voting process.
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy < isolatedn@gmail.com> wrote:
Mathias,
Thanks.
Will work on this today. And send you a revision incorporating comments
in
a few hours.
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Langenegger < matthias.langenegger@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Siva,
According to the At-Large Policy Development schedule, the final draft
of
the At-Large Comment on the Draft Implementation Plan for IDN ccTLD
Fast
Track Process Revision 3 is due today. Did you receive a response to
your
Email from Wednesday and did you have a chance to revise the Draft
Statement? As soon as we receive the final Draft Statement from you we
will
start the ALAC vote on the document.
Kind Regards,
Matthias Langenegger At-Large Coordination Officer Internet Association for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Phone: +41 79 644 65 35 Skype: matthiaslangenegger
________________________________________ From: idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Sivasubramanian Muthusamy [isolatedn@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:21 AM To: ALAC Internal List Cc: Bart Boswinkel; Tina Dam; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Statement on IDN Fast Track Proposal v3
Hello CLO
The revised draft incorporating comments is due tomorrow (9th July) and the statement has to go to alac vote tomorrow. Apart from incorporating comments, should any of the nine points need to be DELETED ?
Please advise.
Thank you.
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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy < isolatedn@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Tina > > The points raised in point 7,8,9 in the ALAC draft comment in > > reference to
> the absence of links to documents etc. are general, minor > > observations,
and
> to be taken as a suggestion for maintaining the completeness of the > > draft
> implementation report. It was NOT implied that this is a serious > > omission,
> nor implied that there was any reason for any intent. > > The draft comments may please NOT be seen as directed to IDN staff, > > and
certainly there was no misunderstanding about staff / working groups
> > that
> would have compiled the third revison of the plan on which the draft > comments were prepared. > > Thank you > Sivasubramanian Muthusamy > IDN liaision. > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart < > nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> wrote: > > > >> Dear IDN Working Group and ALAC members: >> >> Tina Dan at ICANN had a look at the draft statement, and thought I >> >> > should
> advise you of the following, which she thinks may be a >> >> > misunderstanding:
> In 7-8-9, where it appears the ALAC is understanding the Module 7 >> >> > revision
> to be that there are no outstanding issues. In fact all outstanding >> >> > issues
> related to financial considerations, relationship between ICANN and >> >> > manager,
> and variant management are still outstanding, hence the supporting >> >> > papers.
> We simply provided supporting papers as opposed to keeping these >> >> > long
discussions in Module 7.
>> It is correct that we did not add link to the supporting papers in >> >> > the
Draft Implementation Plan. This was difficult to do because of the
>> >> > posting
> deadlines and instead we posted all papers together at: >> http://icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-31may09-en.htm >> I hope this is of use to you. Of course if you have any questions >> >> > related
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