Evan, I think the second option is more workable than the first one since we are asking for something that already exists with another AC. I have talked in Brussels with the most close to ALAC among the members of the board, and they all think that we cant have a voting Director and a liaison. I think that we didnt insist enough to keep the liaison when we advocated for a voting director, and people understood that the voting director is a replacement of the liaison. I fully agree that the role of the liaison cant be covered by the voting director, but ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations Phone : + 216 70 825 231 Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 Fax : + 216 70 825 231 ------------------------------------------------------------------ -----Message d'origine----- De : alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Evan Leibovitch Envoyé : lundi 23 août 2010 18:28 À : Alan Greenberg Cc : alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Objet : Re: [ALAC] ALAC Rule of Procedure for Selecting Director My two cents. I see the very correct points that both Adam and Alan are making and am struggling to come up with an approach that serves our purpose without insisting on a tactic (insisting on an ALAC liaision *and* the At-Large Director) that is politically impractical. I share Adam's fear that, with the creation of the At-Large-appointed Director and elimination of Liaison, there is a possibility that ALAC's own work as a policy-development body will slide into far less relevance than it has now (and that bar is already very low). With nobody on the Board charged with advancing ALAC positions or relaying to ALAC the Board's feedback, we are technically at the same advisory level as any other group submitting public comments through those official mechanisms. Is this what ICANN works so hard to create and spent (and still spending) so much money to develop? To create a body whose only real function is to wake up every three years to help send someone to the Board and then go back to sleep? For ALAC to continue to engage the At-Large community in policy development, there needs to be a direct channel between it and the Board. And just as the At-Large-appointed Board member is not accountable to ALAC, neither must (or even should) the liaision between the Board and ALAC go through that designated person. I would like to toss out a possible middle ground, in fact I can think of two: 1) There is a designated ALAC-Board liaison, but that person be selected by the Board from amongst its members as an official role. That person would be charged with being the bi-directional conduit between ALAC policy development and the Board. 2) we don't need a liaison if the Board is compelled to address and answer ALAC communiques as it now does for the GAC, Advocating ALAC to have the same advisory status as the GAC is both logical and accountable. Are either of these reasonable middle grounds to push for strategically? - Evan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac