Open Public Comment Proceedings
Dear ALAC Members, This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on: Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=69278806> Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter<https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Prop...> Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement<https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Prop...> If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know. Have a great weekend! Thank you, Ariel
Hi Ariel Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise. The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment? Holly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Liang" To:"alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" Cc:"Alan Greenberg" Sent:Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject:[ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Dear ALAC Members, This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on: Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023 [1] Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter [2] Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement [3] If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know. Have a great weekend! Thank you, Ariel Links: ------ [1] https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=69278806 [2] https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Prop... [3] https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Prop...
Hi all, Concerning dates for ICANN meetings 2021-2013, there's an welcome change (at least from an admittedly narrow Northern European point of view): the suggested dates of the Policy Forum don't coincide with the Midsummer festival any more. Perhaps this could be noted as a positive move towards avoiding "conflicts with community events and globally recognized non-working or religious observance days". I could volunteer to draft.. Best, Yrjö ________________________________ From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of h.raiche@internode.on.net <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 4:05 PM To: Ariel Liang; alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: Alan Greenberg Subject: Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Hi Ariel Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise. The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment? Holly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org> To: "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Dear ALAC Members, This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on: Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=69278806> Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter<https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Prop...> Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement<https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Prop...> If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know. Have a great weekend! Thank you, Ariel
For sure!!! All considerations should be done. Int eh beginning of ICANN we had Carnival coincidente in February and they changed… ,Ramadá, Jewish callendar etc shall be respected. Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Yrjö Länsipuro <yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com<mailto:yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com>> Date: Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 10:49 To: "Ariel Liang ," <ariel.liang@icann.org<mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>>, 'ALAC List' <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>, Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Hi all, Concerning dates for ICANN meetings 2021-2013, there's an welcome change (at least from an admittedly narrow Northern European point of view): the suggested dates of the Policy Forum don't coincide with the Midsummer festival any more. Perhaps this could be noted as a positive move towards avoiding "conflicts with community events and globally recognized non-working or religious observance days". I could volunteer to draft.. Best, Yrjö ________________________________ From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net> <h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 4:05 PM To: Ariel Liang; alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: Alan Greenberg Subject: Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Hi Ariel Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise. The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment? Holly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org<mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>> To: "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Dear ALAC Members, This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on: Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=69278806> Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter<https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Prop...> Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement<https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Prop...> If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know. Have a great weekend! Thank you, Ariel
Thanks Holly! In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings. Thank you, Ariel From: "h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Reply-To: "h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Date: Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM To: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: [Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Hi Ariel Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise. The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment? Holly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org> To: "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Dear ALAC Members, This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on: Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...> Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know. Have a great weekend! Thank you, Ariel
I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments. Thanks Beran
On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Holly!
In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings.
Thank you, Ariel
From: "h.raiche@internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>" <h.raiche@internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Reply-To: "h.raiche@internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>" <h.raiche@internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Date: Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM To: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Hi Ariel
Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise.
The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment?
Holly
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>>
To: "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Dear ALAC Members,
This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on:
Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...>
Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know.
Have a great weekend!
Thank you, Ariel
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I think Beran also mentioned a Muslim festival conflict for one of the dates. While it may not be possible to avoid all the conflicts, it's good to indicate them. Regards Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Oct 2, 2017 3:38 PM, "Judith Hellerstein" <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
HI Ariel,
Thanks for this. I see that my comments did not make it to the At large comment page. It is **INCORRECT** to say the following "As far as we can see, the tentative dates for 2021-2023 do avoid conflicting with major, globally recognized holiday periods." When **IT DOES conflict**. 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and in the middle of the meeting there are two days that fall during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). This is a globally recognized holiday period. In the US the US Federal Government allows people to request a day off for these holidays without getting approval from a supervisor as it is a globally recognized holiday. The Same is true with state and local governments. As such it is NOT CORRECT to state that it does not conflict. I would appreciate if you could clarify this statement or let me know where I can add it to the page
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 <https://maps.google.com/?q=3001+Veazey+Terrace+NW,+Washington+DC+20008&entry...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 <+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [ALAC] [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:34:47 -0400 From: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> <judith@jhellerstein.com> Reply-To: judith@jhellerstein.com Organization: Hellerstein & Associates To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
HI All,
Thanks Beran for checking the dates. I see no problems with most of the dates except for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and there is one/two day that falls during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah) these two holidays are added to the end of the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot -Festival of the Booths. It would be good to add this issue to the comments in the effort not to impinge on any persons religious observances
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 <https://maps.google.com/?q=3001+Veazey+Terrace+NW,+Washington+DC+20008&entry...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 <+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 9/5/2017 3:12 PM, Beran Dondeh via ALAC wrote:
I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments.
Thanks
Beran
On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Holly!
In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings.
Thank you, Ariel
*From: *"h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> *Reply-To: *"h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> *Date: *Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM *To: *Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Cc: *Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Hi Ariel
Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise.
The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment?
Holly
----- Original Message ----- *From:* "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org>
*To:* "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Cc:* "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> *Sent:* Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 *Subject:*
[ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Dear ALAC Members,
This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on:
Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...>
Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know.
Have a great weekend!
Thank you, Ariel
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I think it would have been helpful for Yrjo if he had been notified of these examples *on the wiki (or specifically directed to his email) *so that he could incorporate them into his statement. It is difficult to go through every email to decide what is relevant to a public comment. The wiki is set up to provide contributors with a space to voice their vews, and the penholder can actually start to create something that is appropriate and inclusive of these contributions. It can be frustrating exercise for a penholder to get a whole pile of comments right at the end of a public comment period. M On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Beran also mentioned a Muslim festival conflict for one of the dates. While it may not be possible to avoid all the conflicts, it's good to indicate them.
Regards
Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On Oct 2, 2017 3:38 PM, "Judith Hellerstein" <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
HI Ariel,
Thanks for this. I see that my comments did not make it to the At large comment page. It is **INCORRECT** to say the following "As far as we can see, the tentative dates for 2021-2023 do avoid conflicting with major, globally recognized holiday periods." When **IT DOES conflict**. 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and in the middle of the meeting there are two days that fall during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). This is a globally recognized holiday period. In the US the US Federal Government allows people to request a day off for these holidays without getting approval from a supervisor as it is a globally recognized holiday. The Same is true with state and local governments. As such it is NOT CORRECT to state that it does not conflict. I would appreciate if you could clarify this statement or let me know where I can add it to the page
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 <https://maps.google.com/?q=3001+Veazey+Terrace+NW,+Washington+DC+20008&entry...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 <+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [ALAC] [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:34:47 -0400 From: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> <judith@jhellerstein.com> Reply-To: judith@jhellerstein.com Organization: Hellerstein & Associates To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
HI All,
Thanks Beran for checking the dates. I see no problems with most of the dates except for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and there is one/two day that falls during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah) these two holidays are added to the end of the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot -Festival of the Booths. It would be good to add this issue to the comments in the effort not to impinge on any persons religious observances
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 <https://maps.google.com/?q=3001+Veazey+Terrace+NW,+Washington+DC+20008&entry...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 <+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 9/5/2017 3:12 PM, Beran Dondeh via ALAC wrote:
I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments.
Thanks
Beran
On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Holly!
In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings.
Thank you, Ariel
*From: *"h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> *Reply-To: *"h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> *Date: *Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM *To: *Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Cc: *Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Hi Ariel
Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise.
The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment?
Holly
----- Original Message ----- *From:* "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org>
*To:* "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Cc:* "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> *Sent:* Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 *Subject:*
[ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Dear ALAC Members,
This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on:
Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...>
Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know.
Have a great weekend!
Thank you, Ariel
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HI Judith You leave them in the comment boxes... M On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com
wrote:
Hi Maureen,
Yes that would be helpful. I wrote my response before Yrjo was appointed and I did not know I had to re do it but would have been happy to do this if I had known. Beran did the same and it seemed our comments got lost. If we had a place to put them on a wiki it would have been better
Best,
Judith
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On 10/2/2017 12:10 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
I think it would have been helpful for Yrjo if he had been notified of these examples *on the wiki (or specifically directed to his email) *so that he could incorporate them into his statement.
It is difficult to go through every email to decide what is relevant to a public comment. The wiki is set up to provide contributors with a space to voice their vews, and the penholder can actually start to create something that is appropriate and inclusive of these contributions. It can be frustrating exercise for a penholder to get a whole pile of comments right at the end of a public comment period.
M
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Beran also mentioned a Muslim festival conflict for one of the dates. While it may not be possible to avoid all the conflicts, it's good to indicate them.
Regards
Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On Oct 2, 2017 3:38 PM, "Judith Hellerstein" <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
HI Ariel,
Thanks for this. I see that my comments did not make it to the At large comment page. It is **INCORRECT** to say the following "As far as we can see, the tentative dates for 2021-2023 do avoid conflicting with major, globally recognized holiday periods." When **IT DOES conflict**. 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and in the middle of the meeting there are two days that fall during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). This is a globally recognized holiday period. In the US the US Federal Government allows people to request a day off for these holidays without getting approval from a supervisor as it is a globally recognized holiday. The Same is true with state and local governments. As such it is NOT CORRECT to state that it does not conflict. I would appreciate if you could clarify this statement or let me know where I can add it to the page
Best,
Judith
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HI All,
Thanks Beran for checking the dates. I see no problems with most of the dates except for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and there is one/two day that falls during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah) these two holidays are added to the end of the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot -Festival of the Booths. It would be good to add this issue to the comments in the effort not to impinge on any persons religious observances
Best,
Judith
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On 9/5/2017 3:12 PM, Beran Dondeh via ALAC wrote:
I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments.
Thanks
Beran
On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Holly!
In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings.
Thank you, Ariel
*From: *"h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> *Reply-To: *"h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> *Date: *Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM *To: *Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Cc: *Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Hi Ariel
Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise.
The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment?
Holly
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[ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Dear ALAC Members,
This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on:
Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...>
Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know.
Have a great weekend!
Thank you, Ariel
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Hello Judith and All, After you log into the wiki, you will see at the bottom of the page “Write a comment…”. It has been the standard method for At-Large members to provide input on a Statement (good for tracking comments and maintining transparency). As Maureen pointed out, you may leave this comment on the wiki if the Statement is not already posted there. https://community.icann.org/x/VhwhB In the meantime, I have relayed your comment to Yrjo and hopefully he could swift incorporate before submission today. I see Maureen’s comment on the wiki as well. Thank you, Ariel From: <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Date: Monday, October 2, 2017 at 12:24 PM To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> Cc: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings HI Judith You leave them in the comment boxes... M On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote: Hi Maureen, Yes that would be helpful. I wrote my response before Yrjo was appointed and I did not know I had to re do it but would have been happy to do this if I had known. Beran did the same and it seemed our comments got lost. If we had a place to put them on a wiki it would have been better Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008[maps.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 10/2/2017 12:10 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: I think it would have been helpful for Yrjo if he had been notified of these examples on the wiki (or specifically directed to his email) so that he could incorporate them into his statement. It is difficult to go through every email to decide what is relevant to a public comment. The wiki is set up to provide contributors with a space to voice their vews, and the penholder can actually start to create something that is appropriate and inclusive of these contributions. It can be frustrating exercise for a penholder to get a whole pile of comments right at the end of a public comment period. M On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: I think Beran also mentioned a Muslim festival conflict for one of the dates. While it may not be possible to avoid all the conflicts, it's good to indicate them. Regards Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Oct 2, 2017 3:38 PM, "Judith Hellerstein" <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote: HI Ariel, Thanks for this. I see that my comments did not make it to the At large comment page. It is **INCORRECT** to say the following "As far as we can see, the tentative dates for 2021-2023 do avoid conflicting with major, globally recognized holiday periods." When **IT DOES conflict**. 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and in the middle of the meeting there are two days that fall during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). This is a globally recognized holiday period. In the US the US Federal Government allows people to request a day off for these holidays without getting approval from a supervisor as it is a globally recognized holiday. The Same is true with state and local governments. As such it is NOT CORRECT to state that it does not conflict. I would appreciate if you could clarify this statement or let me know where I can add it to the page Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008[maps.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [ALAC] [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:34:47 -0400 From: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com><mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com> Reply-To: judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com> Organization: Hellerstein & Associates To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> HI All, Thanks Beran for checking the dates. I see no problems with most of the dates except for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and there is one/two day that falls during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah) these two holidays are added to the end of the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot -Festival of the Booths. It would be good to add this issue to the comments in the effort not to impinge on any persons religious observances Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008[maps.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 9/5/2017 3:12 PM, Beran Dondeh via ALAC wrote: I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments. Thanks Beran On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org<mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks Holly! In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings. Thank you, Ariel From: "h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>" <h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Reply-To: "h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>" <h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Date: Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM To: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org<mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Hi Ariel Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise. The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment? Holly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org<mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>> To: "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Dear ALAC Members, This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on: Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...> Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know. 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Dear all, I have edited the draft in the wiki, trying to take into account the points raised by others, that I unfortunately had now knowledge of before. The draft now reads: The ALAC welcomes the publishing of tentative dates for ICANN meetings in 2021-2023 well ahead of time so that possible conflicts with community events and globally recognized non-working or religious observance days can be identified and avoided. The tentative dates for 2021-2023 do not entirely avoid conflicting or being too close with major, globally recognized holiday periods of certain religions or regions. On the former, ALAC has noted the following: * The 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. * The 2022 Annual General Meeting (15 – 21 October) falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season, notably Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). There are also important regional (non-religious) holidays that are celebrated in certain regions only, like Midsummer in Northern Europe. Since the Community Fora are either immediately before (2022 and 2023) or after (2021) the Midsummer holidays, travel and various pre- or post-meetings interfere with them. Ideal meeting dates would be a full week removed from the Midsummer holidays. In practice, this would mean moving the Policy Forum one week earlier in 2022 and 2023 and two weeks earlier in 2021. We realize the need for compromises, and understand that not every regional holiday can be taken in account. At the same time, we appreciate the effort to share the inconveniences as equitably as possible. ________________________________ From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org> Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 7:31 PM To: Maureen Hilyard; Judith Hellerstein Cc: ALAC Working List Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings Hello Judith and All, After you log into the wiki, you will see at the bottom of the page “Write a comment…”. It has been the standard method for At-Large members to provide input on a Statement (good for tracking comments and maintining transparency). As Maureen pointed out, you may leave this comment on the wiki if the Statement is not already posted there. https://community.icann.org/x/VhwhB In the meantime, I have relayed your comment to Yrjo and hopefully he could swift incorporate before submission today. I see Maureen’s comment on the wiki as well. Thank you, Ariel From: <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Date: Monday, October 2, 2017 at 12:24 PM To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> Cc: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings HI Judith You leave them in the comment boxes... M On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote: Hi Maureen, Yes that would be helpful. I wrote my response before Yrjo was appointed and I did not know I had to re do it but would have been happy to do this if I had known. Beran did the same and it seemed our comments got lost. If we had a place to put them on a wiki it would have been better Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008[maps.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 10/2/2017 12:10 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: I think it would have been helpful for Yrjo if he had been notified of these examples on the wiki (or specifically directed to his email) so that he could incorporate them into his statement. It is difficult to go through every email to decide what is relevant to a public comment. The wiki is set up to provide contributors with a space to voice their vews, and the penholder can actually start to create something that is appropriate and inclusive of these contributions. It can be frustrating exercise for a penholder to get a whole pile of comments right at the end of a public comment period. M On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: I think Beran also mentioned a Muslim festival conflict for one of the dates. While it may not be possible to avoid all the conflicts, it's good to indicate them. Regards Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Oct 2, 2017 3:38 PM, "Judith Hellerstein" <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote: HI Ariel, Thanks for this. I see that my comments did not make it to the At large comment page. It is **INCORRECT** to say the following "As far as we can see, the tentative dates for 2021-2023 do avoid conflicting with major, globally recognized holiday periods." When **IT DOES conflict**. 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and in the middle of the meeting there are two days that fall during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). This is a globally recognized holiday period. In the US the US Federal Government allows people to request a day off for these holidays without getting approval from a supervisor as it is a globally recognized holiday. The Same is true with state and local governments. As such it is NOT CORRECT to state that it does not conflict. I would appreciate if you could clarify this statement or let me know where I can add it to the page Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008[maps.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [ALAC] [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:34:47 -0400 From: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com><mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com> Reply-To: judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com> Organization: Hellerstein & Associates To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> HI All, Thanks Beran for checking the dates. I see no problems with most of the dates except for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and there is one/two day that falls during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah) these two holidays are added to the end of the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot -Festival of the Booths. It would be good to add this issue to the comments in the effort not to impinge on any persons religious observances Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008[maps.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 9/5/2017 3:12 PM, Beran Dondeh via ALAC wrote: I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments. Thanks Beran On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org<mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks Holly! In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings. Thank you, Ariel From: "h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>" <h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Reply-To: "h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>" <h.raiche@internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Date: Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM To: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org<mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Hi Ariel Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise. The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment? Holly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org<mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>> To: "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Dear ALAC Members, This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on: Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...> Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...> If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know. Have a great weekend! 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Hi Yrjo Thanks for these changes. They are helpful. It would be great if the Agm in 2022 could be in week later as then it would avoid the Jewish holidays. Best Judith Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 2, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Yrjö Länsipuro <yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
I have edited the draft in the wiki, trying to take into account the points raised by others, that I unfortunately had now knowledge of before.
The draft now reads:
The ALAC welcomes the publishing of tentative dates for ICANN meetings in 2021-2023 well ahead of time so that possible conflicts with community events and globally recognized non-working or religious observance days can be identified and avoided.
The tentative dates for 2021-2023 do not entirely avoid conflicting or being too close with major, globally recognized holiday periods of certain religions or regions. On the former, ALAC has noted the following: The 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan.
The 2022 Annual General Meeting (15 – 21 October) falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season, notably Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). There are also important regional (non-religious) holidays that are celebrated in certain regions only, like Midsummer in Northern Europe.
Since the Community Fora are either immediately before (2022 and 2023) or after (2021) the Midsummer holidays, travel and various pre- or post-meetings interfere with them. Ideal meeting dates would be a full week removed from the Midsummer holidays. In practice, this would mean moving the Policy Forum one week earlier in 2022 and 2023 and two weeks earlier in 2021.
We realize the need for compromises, and understand that not every regional holiday can be taken in account. At the same time, we appreciate the effort to share the inconveniences as equitably as possible.
From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org> Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 7:31 PM To: Maureen Hilyard; Judith Hellerstein Cc: ALAC Working List Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings
Hello Judith and All,
After you log into the wiki, you will see at the bottom of the page “Write a comment…”. It has been the standard method for At-Large members to provide input on a Statement (good for tracking comments and maintining transparency). As Maureen pointed out, you may leave this comment on the wiki if the Statement is not already posted there.
https://community.icann.org/x/VhwhB
In the meantime, I have relayed your comment to Yrjo and hopefully he could swift incorporate before submission today. I see Maureen’s comment on the wiki as well.
Thank you, Ariel
From: <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Date: Monday, October 2, 2017 at 12:24 PM To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> Cc: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings
HI Judith
You leave them in the comment boxes...
M
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote: Hi Maureen,
Yes that would be helpful. I wrote my response before Yrjo was appointed and I did not know I had to re do it but would have been happy to do this if I had known. Beran did the same and it seemed our comments got lost. If we had a place to put them on a wiki it would have been better
Best,
Judith
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On 10/2/2017 12:10 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: I think it would have been helpful for Yrjo if he had been notified of these examples on the wiki (or specifically directed to his email) so that he could incorporate them into his statement.
It is difficult to go through every email to decide what is relevant to a public comment. The wiki is set up to provide contributors with a space to voice their vews, and the penholder can actually start to create something that is appropriate and inclusive of these contributions. It can be frustrating exercise for a penholder to get a whole pile of comments right at the end of a public comment period.
M
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote: I think Beran also mentioned a Muslim festival conflict for one of the dates. While it may not be possible to avoid all the conflicts, it's good to indicate them.
Regards
Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On Oct 2, 2017 3:38 PM, "Judith Hellerstein" <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote: HI Ariel,
Thanks for this. I see that my comments did not make it to the At large comment page. It is **INCORRECT** to say the following "As far as we can see, the tentative dates for 2021-2023 do avoid conflicting with major, globally recognized holiday periods." When **IT DOES conflict**. 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and in the middle of the meeting there are two days that fall during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). This is a globally recognized holiday period. In the US the US Federal Government allows people to request a day off for these holidays without getting approval from a supervisor as it is a globally recognized holiday. The Same is true with state and local governments. As such it is NOT CORRECT to state that it does not conflict. I would appreciate if you could clarify this statement or let me know where I can add it to the page
Best,
Judith
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-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [ALAC] [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:34:47 -0400 From: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> Reply-To: judith@jhellerstein.com Organization: Hellerstein & Associates To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org
HI All,
Thanks Beran for checking the dates. I see no problems with most of the dates except for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and there is one/two day that falls during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah) these two holidays are added to the end of the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot -Festival of the Booths. It would be good to add this issue to the comments in the effort not to impinge on any persons religious observances
Best,
Judith
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On 9/5/2017 3:12 PM, Beran Dondeh via ALAC wrote: I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments.
Thanks
Beran On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Holly!
In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings.
Thank you, Ariel
From: "h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Reply-To: "h.raiche@internode.on.net" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> Date: Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM To: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Subject: [Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Hi Ariel
Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise.
The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment?
Holly
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To: "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Dear ALAC Members,
This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on:
Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org]
Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org]
Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org]
If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know.
Have a great weekend!
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Thank you Yrjö for this last draft. I think it didn’t take into consideration all the comments including the last comment from Alan. For the record, it has always been the same process: the pen holder proposes the first draft and all the contributions cams as comments on the first draft. The first draft of this statement has been posted for comment on 2 October 14:18 UTC (yesterday)… For this very statement, contributions have been submitted from the very beginning (Beran and Judith: 5 Sept), So, it is one of the best situations for the pen holder. I hope that in the futur, contributions are made early and the first draft is posted earlier. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Directeur Exécutif Fédération Méditerranéenne des associations d'Internet (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Le 2 oct. 2017 à 23:22, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> a écrit :
Hi Yrjo
Thanks for these changes. They are helpful. It would be great if the Agm in 2022 could be in week later as then it would avoid the Jewish holidays.
Best Judith
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 2, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Yrjö Länsipuro <yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Dear all,
I have edited the draft in the wiki, trying to take into account the points raised by others, that I unfortunately had now knowledge of before.
The draft now reads:
The ALAC welcomes the publishing of tentative dates for ICANN meetings in 2021-2023 well ahead of time so that possible conflicts with community events and globally recognized non-working or religious observance days can be identified and avoided.
The tentative dates for 2021-2023 do not entirely avoid conflicting or being too close with major, globally recognized holiday periods of certain religions or regions. On the former, ALAC has noted the following: The 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan.
The 2022 Annual General Meeting (15 – 21 October) falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season, notably Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). There are also important regional (non-religious) holidays that are celebrated in certain regions only, like Midsummer in Northern Europe.
Since the Community Fora are either immediately before (2022 and 2023) or after (2021) the Midsummer holidays, travel and various pre- or post-meetings interfere with them. Ideal meeting dates would be a full week removed from the Midsummer holidays. In practice, this would mean moving the Policy Forum one week earlier in 2022 and 2023 and two weeks earlier in 2021.
We realize the need for compromises, and understand that not every regional holiday can be taken in account. At the same time, we appreciate the effort to share the inconveniences as equitably as possible.
From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>> Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 7:31 PM To: Maureen Hilyard; Judith Hellerstein Cc: ALAC Working List Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings
Hello Judith and All,
After you log into the wiki, you will see at the bottom of the page “Write a comment…”. It has been the standard method for At-Large members to provide input on a Statement (good for tracking comments and maintining transparency). As Maureen pointed out, you may leave this comment on the wiki if the Statement is not already posted there.
https://community.icann.org/x/VhwhB <https://community.icann.org/x/VhwhB>
In the meantime, I have relayed your comment to Yrjo and hopefully he could swift incorporate before submission today. I see Maureen’s comment on the wiki as well.
Thank you, Ariel
From: <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> Date: Monday, October 2, 2017 at 12:24 PM To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Cc: ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Re: [Ext] Re: Open Public Comment Proceedings
HI Judith
You leave them in the comment boxes...
M
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote: Hi Maureen,
Yes that would be helpful. I wrote my response before Yrjo was appointed and I did not know I had to re do it but would have been happy to do this if I had known. Beran did the same and it seemed our comments got lost. If we had a place to put them on a wiki it would have been better
Best,
Judith
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On 10/2/2017 12:10 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: I think it would have been helpful for Yrjo if he had been notified of these examples on the wiki (or specifically directed to his email) so that he could incorporate them into his statement.
It is difficult to go through every email to decide what is relevant to a public comment. The wiki is set up to provide contributors with a space to voice their vews, and the penholder can actually start to create something that is appropriate and inclusive of these contributions. It can be frustrating exercise for a penholder to get a whole pile of comments right at the end of a public comment period.
M
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com <mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>> wrote: I think Beran also mentioned a Muslim festival conflict for one of the dates. While it may not be possible to avoid all the conflicts, it's good to indicate them.
Regards
Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On Oct 2, 2017 3:38 PM, "Judith Hellerstein" <judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote: HI Ariel,
Thanks for this. I see that my comments did not make it to the At large comment page. It is **INCORRECT** to say the following "As far as we can see, the tentative dates for 2021-2023 do avoid conflicting with major, globally recognized holiday periods." When **IT DOES conflict**. 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and in the middle of the meeting there are two days that fall during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). This is a globally recognized holiday period. In the US the US Federal Government allows people to request a day off for these holidays without getting approval from a supervisor as it is a globally recognized holiday. The Same is true with state and local governments. As such it is NOT CORRECT to state that it does not conflict. I would appreciate if you could clarify this statement or let me know where I can add it to the page
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008[maps.google.com] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 <tel:+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
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HI All,
Thanks Beran for checking the dates. I see no problems with most of the dates except for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and there is one/two day that falls during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah) these two holidays are added to the end of the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot -Festival of the Booths. It would be good to add this issue to the comments in the effort not to impinge on any persons religious observances
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008[maps.google.com] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D...> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 <tel:+1%20202-333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 9/5/2017 3:12 PM, Beran Dondeh via ALAC wrote: I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments.
Thanks
Beran On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>> wrote:
Thanks Holly!
In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings.
Thank you, Ariel
From: "h.raiche@internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>" <h.raiche@internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Reply-To: "h.raiche@internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>" <h.raiche@internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net>> Date: Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM To: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>>, "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Subject: [Ext] Re: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings
Hi Ariel
Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise.
The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment?
Holly
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org>>
To: "alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Cc: "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>> Sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:14:35 +0000 Subject: [ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings Dear ALAC Members,
This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on:
Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...>
Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>
If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know.
Have a great weekend!
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Ariel Liang -
Beran Dondeh -
h.raiche＠internode.on.net -
Judith Hellerstein -
Maureen Hilyard -
Seun Ojedeji -
Tijani BEN JEMAA -
Vanda Scartezini -
Yrjö Länsipuro