You are right Maureen and my comment was not to fault the pen holder at all. Regards Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Oct 2, 2017 5:10 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote: I think it would have been helpful for Yrjo if he had been notified of these examples *on the wiki (or specifically directed to his email) *so that he could incorporate them into his statement. It is difficult to go through every email to decide what is relevant to a public comment. The wiki is set up to provide contributors with a space to voice their vews, and the penholder can actually start to create something that is appropriate and inclusive of these contributions. It can be frustrating exercise for a penholder to get a whole pile of comments right at the end of a public comment period. M On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:

I think Beran also mentioned a Muslim festival conflict for one of the dates. While it may not be possible to avoid all the conflicts, it's good to indicate them.

Regards

Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Oct 2, 2017 3:38 PM, "Judith Hellerstein" <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:

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HI Ariel,

Thanks for this. I see that my comments did not make it to the At large comment page. It is **INCORRECT** to say the following "As far as we can see, the tentative dates for 2021-2023 do avoid conflicting with major, globally recognized holiday periods." When **IT DOES conflict**. 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and in the middle of the meeting there are two days that fall during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah). This is a globally recognized holiday period. In the US the US Federal Government allows people to request a day off for these holidays without getting approval from a supervisor as it is a globally recognized holiday. The Same is true with state and local governments. As such it is NOT CORRECT to state that it does not conflict. I would appreciate if you could clarify this statement or let me know where I can add it to the page

Best,

Judith

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HI All,

Thanks Beran for checking the dates. I see no problems with most of the dates except for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting 15 – 21 October 2022 falls near the end of the Jewish Holiday season and there is one/two day that falls during a Jewish holiday that is the holiday of Shmini Atzeret (eighth day of Assembly) and Simchat Torah (Celebration of the Torah) these two holidays are added to the end of the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot -Festival of the Booths. It would be good to add this issue to the comments in the effort not to impinge on any persons religious observances

Best,

Judith

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On 9/5/2017 3:12 PM, Beran Dondeh via ALAC wrote:

I must say I am happy to say the none of the 2021 and 2022 meetings will fall during the muslim month of Ramadan. However, the 2023 Community Forum will be at the beginning of Ramadan. Perhaps good to add that to the comments.

Thanks

Beran

On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org> wrote:

Thanks Holly!

In fact, the other two public comment proceedings that are not mentioned have been assigned to members to review and advise whether a Statement is necessary. I will update the wiki workspace after hearing feedback on those two proceedings.

Thank you, Ariel

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Hi Ariel

Thanks for the reminder. I've had a look at all three, and am not sure they are of real importance to ALAC - but could be easily convinced otherwise.

The other two items on our policy page that you didn't mention (and with deadlines for comment much closer) are the ITEMS final report on the ASO and the statistical analysis of DNS abuse. I've only skimmed the ASO report - some interesting recommendations but, while interesting, not critical. I haven't had time to look at the DNS Abuse study - but imagine it may be important to us. Have they been considered by the ALAC and rejected for comment?

Holly

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[ALAC] Open Public Comment Proceedings

Dear ALAC Members,

This is a friendly reminder on the currently open public comment proceedings that no one has volunteered to work on:

Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2021–2023[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pag...>

Proposed Changes to the NCUC Charter[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>

Proposed Renewal of .MUSEUM Sponsored Registry Agreement[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis...>

If you wish to volunteer to review any of these proceedings and advise whether the ALAC should comment or not, please be so kind to let me know.

Have a great weekend!

Thank you, Ariel

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