I find it fascinating -- and disturbing -- that one of our longest discussion threads of recent memory is not about policy, or even process, but assigning credit. If only we could have something even half as engaging regarding the most pressing current issue (IMO) which is proposing an alternative to the massive excesses of the IRT report. Without an alternative in hand, that piece of crap is the only approach to trademarks that ICANN senior staff and Board have in their hands. If that doesn't interest you, please find something else that does. There are certainly enough going on right now: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rJKtp8gl3W5-ZcY_xMpPg5w Pick a working group and get involved, wake it up if you have to. ALAC has an acute shortage of people stepping forward to help on policy. We have an otherwise-needless Executive Committee formed merely because there are so many vacuums to fill, which means the same small core of people are being called upon to to most of the work. And then people complain about inclusiveness... Please -- those of you who have so keenly debated who deserves the honours for past actions -- consider that we have many more such potential actions ahead. Let's not make domain tasting the ONLY policy achievement we of which should be proud. - Evan