Re: [ALAC] Deadline for public consultation on New gTLD Applicant Guidebook v3
Hello all, While we continue to engage with other constituencies on issues related to intellectual property, all other components of DAG2 that we found objectionable remain in DAG3 with little change. Among them: - The prohibitive price to would-be community registries - The punitive method of refunds for failed applications - The persistence of a Morality and Public Order clause - The ability to challenge strings based on similar "meaning" to existing ones - New details -- yet new ambiguities -- on the role and capabilities of the Independent Objector Sadly, ICANN staff appears to have ignored each and every issue raised by At-Large. The compendium of public comments ignored us entirely. Indeed, it would be a significant challenge to indicate any change from DAG2 to DAG3 that indicates any influence from the many detailed, positive, well-thought-out recommendations that resulted from Summit WG3. (Aside: It's nice to hear all the positive comments on the Summit, but I would be far happier with fewer platitudes and more consideration of what we actually said.) As demoralizing was the (non) response to our input on DAG2, it is still our duty to respond to DAG3. Perhaps the landscape shifted somewhat after the joint ALAC-NCUC statement on the IRT which (I was told) mortally damaged its claim of broad community support. Perhaps we will be listened to this time. Even so, I would note that the IRT's replacement, the GNSO STI group, has deliberately reduced participation of At-Large. So the vested interests continue to assert that the voice of At-Large is to be marginalized. But we must not be silenced. In crafting a response to DAG3. We have an excellent starting point in our response to DAG2. Who is interested in helping? My intention (as chair of the gTLD WG) is to move further discussion on this issue to that WG's mailing list.(gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org). See you there! - Evan 2009/11/18 ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>
Dear Chairs of the gTLD working group and the At-Large Names Issues Taskforce,
We would like to inform you that the deadline for the public consultation on the Version 3 of New gTLD Applicant Guidebook is 12 December 2009. The deadline was originally set to 22 November 2009 but since the non-English versions of the DAG 3 were not available before 28 October we informed the person in charge for this consultation that the deadline needs to be extended to allow non-English speakers equal time to respond.
You can find a detailed overview of the new gTLD program under: http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm.
The full At-Large Policy Advice Schedule is available under: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/policycalendar
*Explanation/Background: *The Draft Applicant Guidebook, V3 is available for review and comment at http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-3-en.htm. The Guidebook has been changed significantly with regards to version 2. In all, there are over 50 areas of change, clearly indicated in the “redline” version of the Guidebook. All materials are in draft form for public comment and review. Your comments will help with the production of the next version of the Applicant Guidebook.
-- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff
email: staff at atlarge.icann.org
I would be happy to assist in the drafting. However, the timing is short isn't it? The deadline comment is 22nd of Nov unless it is somehow extended? -James Seng On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Hello all,
While we continue to engage with other constituencies on issues related to intellectual property, all other components of DAG2 that we found objectionable remain in DAG3 with little change. Among them:
- The prohibitive price to would-be community registries - The punitive method of refunds for failed applications - The persistence of a Morality and Public Order clause - The ability to challenge strings based on similar "meaning" to existing ones - New details -- yet new ambiguities -- on the role and capabilities of the Independent Objector
Sadly, ICANN staff appears to have ignored each and every issue raised by At-Large. The compendium of public comments ignored us entirely. Indeed, it would be a significant challenge to indicate any change from DAG2 to DAG3 that indicates any influence from the many detailed, positive, well-thought-out recommendations that resulted from Summit WG3.
(Aside: It's nice to hear all the positive comments on the Summit, but I would be far happier with fewer platitudes and more consideration of what we actually said.)
As demoralizing was the (non) response to our input on DAG2, it is still our duty to respond to DAG3. Perhaps the landscape shifted somewhat after the joint ALAC-NCUC statement on the IRT which (I was told) mortally damaged its claim of broad community support. Perhaps we will be listened to this time. Even so, I would note that the IRT's replacement, the GNSO STI group, has deliberately reduced participation of At-Large. So the vested interests continue to assert that the voice of At-Large is to be marginalized. But we must not be silenced.
In crafting a response to DAG3. We have an excellent starting point in our response to DAG2. Who is interested in helping?
My intention (as chair of the gTLD WG) is to move further discussion on this issue to that WG's mailing list.(gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org). See you there!
- Evan
2009/11/18 ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>
Dear Chairs of the gTLD working group and the At-Large Names Issues Taskforce,
We would like to inform you that the deadline for the public consultation on the Version 3 of New gTLD Applicant Guidebook is 12 December 2009. The deadline was originally set to 22 November 2009 but since the non-English versions of the DAG 3 were not available before 28 October we informed the person in charge for this consultation that the deadline needs to be extended to allow non-English speakers equal time to respond.
You can find a detailed overview of the new gTLD program under: http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm.
The full At-Large Policy Advice Schedule is available under: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/policycalendar
*Explanation/Background: *The Draft Applicant Guidebook, V3 is available for review and comment at http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-3-en.htm. The Guidebook has been changed significantly with regards to version 2. In all, there are over 50 areas of change, clearly indicated in the “redline” version of the Guidebook. All materials are in draft form for public comment and review. Your comments will help with the production of the next version of the Applicant Guidebook.
-- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff
email: staff at atlarge.icann.org
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Dear James, The non-English versions of the DAGv3 were published after the start of the public consultation process and to ensure non-English speakers will have equal time to respond, comments will be taken into account until 12 December 2009. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff at atlarge.icann.org On 20/11/2009 02:03, "James Seng" <james@seng.sg> wrote:
I would be happy to assist in the drafting.
However, the timing is short
isn't it? The deadline comment is 22nd of Nov unless it is somehow extended?
-James Seng On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Evan Leibovitch
<evan@telly.org> wrote:
Hello all,
While we continue to engage with other constituencies on issues related to intellectual property, all other components of DAG2 that we found objectionable remain in DAG3 with little change. Among them:
- The prohibitive price to would-be community registries - The punitive method of refunds for failed applications - The persistence of a Morality and Public Order clause - The ability to challenge strings based on similar "meaning" to existing ones - New details -- yet new ambiguities -- on the role and capabilities of the Independent Objector
Sadly, ICANN staff appears to have ignored each and every issue raised by At-Large. The compendium of public comments ignored us entirely. Indeed, it would be a significant challenge to indicate any change from DAG2 to DAG3 that indicates any influence from the many detailed, positive, well-thought-out recommendations that resulted from Summit WG3.
(Aside: It's nice to hear all the positive comments on the Summit, but I would be far happier with fewer platitudes and more consideration of what we actually said.)
As demoralizing was the (non) response to our input on DAG2, it is still our duty to respond to DAG3. Perhaps the landscape shifted somewhat after the joint ALAC-NCUC statement on the IRT which (I was told) mortally damaged its claim of broad community support. Perhaps we will be listened to this time. Even so, I would note that the IRT's replacement, the GNSO STI group, has deliberately reduced participation of At-Large. So the vested interests continue to assert that the voice of At-Large is to be marginalized. But we must not be silenced.
In crafting a response to DAG3. We have an excellent starting point in our response to DAG2. Who is interested in helping?
My intention (as chair of the gTLD WG) is to move further discussion on this
issue to that WG's mailing list.(gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org). See you
there!
- Evan
2009/11/18 ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>
Dear Chairs of the gTLD working group and the At-Large Names Issues Taskforce,
We would like to inform you that the deadline for the public consultation on the Version 3 of New gTLD Applicant Guidebook is 12 December 2009. The deadline was originally set to 22 November 2009 but since the non-English versions of the DAG 3 were not available before 28 October we informed the person in charge for this consultation that the deadline needs to be extended to allow non-English speakers equal time to respond.
You can find a detailed overview of the new gTLD program under:
http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm.
The full At-Large
Policy Advice Schedule is available under:
http://www.atlarge.icann.org/policycalendar
*Explanation/Background:
*The Draft Applicant Guidebook, V3 is available
for review and comment at http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-3-en.htm. The
Guidebook
has been changed significantly with regards to version 2. In all, there are over 50 areas of change, clearly indicated in the ³redline² version of the Guidebook. All materials are in draft form for public comment and review. Your comments will help with the production of the next version of the Applicant Guidebook.
-- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella
Gruber-White
ICANN At-Large Staff
email: staff at atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org
At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
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Thank you. Then we should have sufficient time :-) -James Seng On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff < staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
Dear James,
The non-English versions of the DAGv3 were published after the start of the public consultation process and to ensure non-English speakers will have equal time to respond, comments will be taken into account until 12 December 2009.
-- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff
email: staff at atlarge.icann.org
On 20/11/2009 02:03, "James Seng" <james@seng.sg> wrote:
I would be happy to assist in the drafting.
However, the timing is short
isn't it? The deadline comment is 22nd of Nov unless it is somehow extended?
-James Seng
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Evan Leibovitch
<evan@telly.org> wrote:
Hello all,
While we continue to engage with other constituencies on issues related to intellectual property, all other components of DAG2 that we found objectionable remain in DAG3 with little change. Among them:
- The prohibitive price to would-be community registries - The punitive method of refunds for failed applications - The persistence of a Morality and Public Order clause - The ability to challenge strings based on similar "meaning" to existing ones - New details -- yet new ambiguities -- on the role and capabilities of the Independent Objector
Sadly, ICANN staff appears to have ignored each and every issue raised by At-Large. The compendium of public comments ignored us entirely. Indeed, it would be a significant challenge to indicate any change from DAG2 to DAG3 that indicates any influence from the many detailed, positive, well-thought-out recommendations that resulted from Summit WG3.
(Aside: It's nice to hear all the positive comments on the Summit, but I would be far happier with fewer platitudes and more consideration of what we actually said.)
As demoralizing was the (non) response to our input on DAG2, it is still our duty to respond to DAG3. Perhaps the landscape shifted somewhat after the joint ALAC-NCUC statement on the IRT which (I was told) mortally damaged its claim of broad community support. Perhaps we will be listened to this time. Even so, I would note that the IRT's replacement, the GNSO STI group, has deliberately reduced participation of At-Large. So the vested interests continue to assert that the voice of At-Large is to be marginalized. But we must not be silenced.
In crafting a response to DAG3. We have an excellent starting point in our response to DAG2. Who is interested in helping?
My intention (as chair of the gTLD WG) is to move further discussion on this
issue to that WG's mailing list.(gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org). See you
there!
- Evan
2009/11/18 ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>
Dear Chairs of the gTLD working group and the At-Large Names Issues Taskforce,
We would like to inform you that the deadline for the public consultation on the Version 3 of New gTLD Applicant Guidebook is 12 December 2009. The deadline was originally set to 22 November 2009 but since the non-English versions of the DAG 3 were not available before 28 October we informed the person in charge for this consultation that the deadline needs to be extended to allow non-English speakers equal time to respond.
You can find a detailed overview of the new gTLD program under:
http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm.
The full At-Large
Policy Advice Schedule is available under:
http://www.atlarge.icann.org/policycalendar
*Explanation/Background:
*The Draft Applicant Guidebook, V3 is available
for review and comment at http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-3-en.htm. The
Guidebook
has been changed significantly with regards to version 2. In all, there are over 50 areas of change, clearly indicated in the ³redline² version of the Guidebook. All materials are in draft form for public comment and review. Your comments will help with the production of the next version of the Applicant Guidebook.
-- Regards,
Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella
Gruber-White
ICANN At-Large Staff
email: staff at atlarge.icann.org
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org
At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
_______________________________________________ ALAC
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Evan Leibovitch -
ICANN At-Large Staff -
James Seng