Re: [ALAC] [AFRI-Discuss] CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FROM AFRALO, APRALO AND EURALO FOR THE 2019 AT-LARGE ELECTIONS - Nomination of Abdulkarim Oloyede for ALAC delegate to the NomCom
Actually I am very disappointed in how this issue has become a storm in a teacup and I have to wonder why certain members of AFRALO should be so defensive. As the ALAC Chair, as you all know, I cast an eye over as many activities of the RALOs and Working Groups within At-Large as I can and participate often in At-Large and RALO meetings when I can, as part of my role of ensuring that things are ticking over as they should - checking on organisational effectiveness and maintaining the brief of the At-Large Review Implementation. In hindsight I regret the timing in which I made my comment, but it was in relation to something I observed, and commented in what I felt was a lighthearted and non-threatening way. Considering the comments that have been made to the Chair of the ALAC, I wonder who should feel more insulted and disrespected. Thankfully, I took heart from the comment from Nkem Nweke - that the intent of my original comment was indeed recognised. Best of luck for your nominations and elections. Maureen On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:45 PM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear Maureen and Cheryl, I have lots of respect for both of you for the wonderful job you have been doing in ICANN however I find it very disrespectful, and insulting to this community that you are trying to interfere in something as sensitive as an election. All over the world, it is never acceptable to do this. It is acceptable for you to be part of the mailing list but for God's sake elections are sensitive issues and internal affairs of the community. What both of you have done is the same thing a lot of people from Russia were deported for from the US and we all know what has been going on. My example here is just to let you understand the gravity of what you are doing. I do not believe anyone from this community would be allowed to do same in your own RALO but you think it is acceptable to do this in AFRALO cos we are Africans (as usual). I believe as a community we need to address this infringement and I would suggest (and passionately take it up if appointed by this community) to take this up with Empowered community. This is not acceptable in any way Even if Mohammed has his fact wrong I think Cheryl whom I look up too has gone beyond what I can swallow by disrespecting an entire community by trying to defend her beloved 'daughter'
Going Forward I seek the permission of the leadership of AFRALO to take this to the Empowered community. Thank You Abdulkarim
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On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:02 AM Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir@mbash.net> wrote:
True, because APRALO has 4 leaders including 2 vice chairs, its a good setup to ensure the diversity.
As AfRALO currently has 3 leaders positions which accommodates both gender/regional diversity, In the future if AfRALO leaders considered expanding the leaders positions this can bring further extra diversity as well.
Kind Regards, Mohamed
On Apr 30, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
Mohamed, for the record the APRALO Leadership team is Both Gender balanced and sub regionally diverse by design.
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 09:10 Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir@mbash.net> wrote:
AfRALO is the only RALO that currently has 2 female leaders currently, regardless of the current elections result as AfRALO we have and care about gender diversity beside our own African diversity as well.
@Daniel : any RALO nomination/election is RALO process not an ALAC process, you can try and intervene in APRALO, NARALO, LACROL or EURALO process and advice them about their nominations.
Kind Regards, Mohamed AfRALO chair
On Apr 30, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Nkem Nweke via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Maureen for the headup.
@Mohammed. This is just a mild remark and AFRALO election is also ALAC business
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Dear all, In my respective capacity as an AFRALO, I feel disappointed that some members of the community seem not to like the idea of diversity. For the betterment of our community, regional diversity, gender diversity, timelines of service and experience should be taken into consideration. In due respect of Mohammed as chair of AFRALO, feel humilated when @Mohammed address me in a communication as though I am influencing the regional election. We all know the regional fights of AFRINIC, and I would not love the same for AFRALO. AFRALO is not for West Africa or East Africa or North Africa or South Africa. I advocate for the young members be given opportunity to serve and get experience in leadership. The older people should be mentors and not criticise the young peoples ability to lead. We should learn to accept advice and critic. Its a shame for AFRALO that some members want to turn AFRALO into AFRINIC. Daniel K. Nanghaka On May 1, 2019 12:52 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually I am very disappointed in how this issue has become a storm in a teacup and I have to wonder why certain members of AFRALO should be so defensive.
As the ALAC Chair, as you all know, I cast an eye over as many activities of the RALOs and Working Groups within At-Large as I can and participate often in At-Large and RALO meetings when I can, as part of my role of ensuring that things are ticking over as they should - checking on organisational effectiveness and maintaining the brief of the At-Large Review Implementation.
In hindsight I regret the timing in which I made my comment, but it was in relation to something I observed, and commented in what I felt was a lighthearted and non-threatening way. Considering the comments that have been made to the Chair of the ALAC, I wonder who should feel more insulted and disrespected.
Thankfully, I took heart from the comment from Nkem Nweke - that the intent of my original comment was indeed recognised.
Best of luck for your nominations and elections.
Maureen
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:45 PM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE < oloyede.aa@unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear Maureen and Cheryl, I have lots of respect for both of you for the wonderful job you have been doing in ICANN however I find it very disrespectful, and insulting to this community that you are trying to interfere in something as sensitive as an election. All over the world, it is never acceptable to do this. It is acceptable for you to be part of the mailing list but for God's sake elections are sensitive issues and internal affairs of the community. What both of you have done is the same thing a lot of people from Russia were deported for from the US and we all know what has been going on. My example here is just to let you understand the gravity of what you are doing. I do not believe anyone from this community would be allowed to do same in your own RALO but you think it is acceptable to do this in AFRALO cos we are Africans (as usual). I believe as a community we need to address this infringement and I would suggest (and passionately take it up if appointed by this community) to take this up with Empowered community. This is not acceptable in any way Even if Mohammed has his fact wrong I think Cheryl whom I look up too has gone beyond what I can swallow by disrespecting an entire community by trying to defend her beloved 'daughter'
Going Forward I seek the permission of the leadership of AFRALO to take this to the Empowered community. Thank You Abdulkarim
.
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 1:02 AM Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir@mbash.net> wrote:
True, because APRALO has 4 leaders including 2 vice chairs, its a good setup to ensure the diversity.
As AfRALO currently has 3 leaders positions which accommodates both gender/regional diversity, In the future if AfRALO leaders considered expanding the leaders positions this can bring further extra diversity as well.
Kind Regards, Mohamed
On Apr 30, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com> wrote:
Mohamed, for the record the APRALO Leadership team is Both Gender balanced and sub regionally diverse by design.
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 09:10 Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir@mbash.net> wrote:
AfRALO is the only RALO that currently has 2 female leaders currently, regardless of the current elections result as AfRALO we have and care about gender diversity beside our own African diversity as well.
@Daniel : any RALO nomination/election is RALO process not an ALAC process, you can try and intervene in APRALO, NARALO, LACROL or EURALO process and advice them about their nominations.
Kind Regards, Mohamed AfRALO chair
On Apr 30, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Nkem Nweke via AFRI-Discuss < afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Maureen for the headup.
@Mohammed. This is just a mild remark and AFRALO election is also ALAC business
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