Re: [ALAC] Draft Agenda for ALAC ExCom meeting of 15th July
Alan Greenberg wrote:
I really would like someone to define "get rid of the ExCom". Does that mean you don't want Vice-Chairs. Or don't want them working with and talking to the Chair. Do you want the Chair to have sole responsibility for Chair matters, rather than talking things through with a representative of each region. Or do you want all of that to happen, but just not have the title ExCom. What is it you really want. No buzzwords - please be clear and succinct.
The definition of "get rid of the Excom" seems self-evident to me; I assume you are asking what would replace its current functions. But you've also asked for some ancillary questions related to Vice-Chairs etc so I'll offer my vision of it all. The Chair of ALAC has certain functions. It is reasonable to have a Vice-Chair in case the Chair is temporarily unable to function. Unless there are many instances in which both the Chair and Vice-Chair are unavailable, having more than one Vice-Chair position is redundant. Anything more than Chair, a single Vice-Chair and a Secretariat is sheer bloat driven by politics (ie, some kind of equity doctrine) rather than merit. These three people ought to have the authority to act in emergency measures -- that is, when unforeseen deadlines any other circumstances occur in which the ALAC cannot practically be consulted. However, these circumstances must be minimized and foreseen when possible, and all such emergency actions should be reported back to ALAC at the next opportunity (by email, not then next ALAC meeting) for subsequent action. Non-emergency matters of ANY kind should not be undertaken by any body other than ALAC or an open-membership At-Large working group created by ALAC. Such working groups require at least one ALAC member or RALO leader as chair/liaison who will report on its activities (and bring forward resolutions) to ALAC meetings; otherwise membership is open to any bonafide member of At-Large (an ALS or individual members according to appropriate regional policies). The working groups are to operate informally and by rough consensus of all involved. In the case of the two documents being discussed at the ExecComm tomorrow, these should both have been drafted by an administrative (standing) WG, open to participation by anyone in At-Large who is interest in actively helping. (Who knows? such an Admin WG might have the same people currently in the ExecCom... but the difference is that others are welcome to participate *as equals* and not just non-voting bystanders.) I would envision that the Admin WG would be chaired by the ALAC Secretary and have the participation of all RALO Secretariats and anyone else who is interested. The ALAC Chair should not chair any working group. That position has enough to do and others must be encouraged to share the load. Each ALAC member is expected, as a minimum, to be either - Chair, Vice-Chair or Secretary - Liaison to an ICANN committee or constituency - Chair of an At-Large Working Group RALO chairs and secretariats are also expected to be part of at least one working group, serving as chairs if no ALAC members are available (ie, the number of WGs exceeds the number of ALAC members not otherwise occupied) These should be part of the job descriptions. Any ALAC member or RALO leader incapable or unwilling to fulfil such responsibilities should resign, be recalled, or instructed not to stand for election or nomination. There. I don't know about succinct by I hope that this vision is clear enough. You wanted alternatives, here's one. - Evan
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:40:57 -0400 From: evan@telly.org To: alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca CC: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ALAC] Draft Agenda for ALAC ExCom meeting of 15th July
Alan Greenberg wrote:
I really would like someone to define "get rid of the ExCom". Does that mean you don't want Vice-Chairs. Or don't want them working with and talking to the Chair. Do you want the Chair to have sole responsibility for Chair matters, rather than talking things through with a representative of each region. Or do you want all of that to happen, but just not have the title ExCom. What is it you really want. No buzzwords - please be clear and succinct.
The definition of "get rid of the Excom" seems self-evident to me; I assume you are asking what would replace its current functions. But you've also asked for some ancillary questions related to Vice-Chairs etc so I'll offer my vision of it all.
The Chair of ALAC has certain functions. It is reasonable to have a Vice-Chair in case the Chair is temporarily unable to function. Unless there are many instances in which both the Chair and Vice-Chair are unavailable, having more than one Vice-Chair position is redundant. Anything more than Chair, a single Vice-Chair and a Secretariat is sheer bloat driven by politics (ie, some kind of equity doctrine) rather than merit.
These three people ought to have the authority to act in emergency measures -- that is, when unforeseen deadlines any other circumstances occur in which the ALAC cannot practically be consulted. However, these circumstances must be minimized and foreseen when possible, and all such emergency actions should be reported back to ALAC at the next opportunity (by email, not then next ALAC meeting) for subsequent action.
Non-emergency matters of ANY kind should not be undertaken by any body other than ALAC or an open-membership At-Large working group created by ALAC. Such working groups require at least one ALAC member or RALO leader as chair/liaison who will report on its activities (and bring forward resolutions) to ALAC meetings; otherwise membership is open to any bonafide member of At-Large (an ALS or individual members according to appropriate regional policies). The working groups are to operate informally and by rough consensus of all involved.
In the case of the two documents being discussed at the ExecComm tomorrow, these should both have been drafted by an administrative (standing) WG, open to participation by anyone in At-Large who is interest in actively helping. (Who knows? such an Admin WG might have the same people currently in the ExecCom... but the difference is that others are welcome to participate *as equals* and not just non-voting bystanders.) I would envision that the Admin WG would be chaired by the ALAC Secretary and have the participation of all RALO Secretariats and anyone else who is interested.
The ALAC Chair should not chair any working group. That position has enough to do and others must be encouraged to share the load.
Each ALAC member is expected, as a minimum, to be either - Chair, Vice-Chair or Secretary - Liaison to an ICANN committee or constituency - Chair of an At-Large Working Group
RALO chairs and secretariats are also expected to be part of at least one working group, serving as chairs if no ALAC members are available (ie, the number of WGs exceeds the number of ALAC members not otherwise occupied)
These should be part of the job descriptions. Any ALAC member or RALO leader incapable or unwilling to fulfil such responsibilities should resign, be recalled, or instructed not to stand for election or nomination.
There. I don't know about succinct by I hope that this vision is clear enough. You wanted alternatives, here's one.
- Evan
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