Brief update: It appears this WG has stalled for the foreseeable future. The chairman, Mike O'Connor, has resigned. Avri Doria sent a message this morning telling the participants to await next steps, but the WG had pretty much stalled in process already. Bureaucratic processes are not my strong suit, but should the ALAC create a short statement of advisory that we believe this is an important issue, provide some framework and definition, and encourage the GNSO to re-constitute the group? Beau ** This e-mail message is intended only for the designated recipient(s) named above. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, retain, copy, redistribute or use this e-mail or any attachment for any purpose, or disclose all or any part of its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments from your computer system.
Oh dear this is disappointing... Beau we will ensure this matter of an ALAC letter going out is on this month Agenda... Can the RALO Reps ensure that the 'back-up' support / opinions of their constituent ALS's are sort on this please as it will be FAR more powerful if we can say and this, this and this ALS have stated their Memberships agreement to this as well... CLO (who is about to forward this message to her own ALS and the APRALO Chair/list {subtle *hint* here for others} ;-) -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2008 1:50 AM To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org; NA Discuss Subject: [ALAC] Fast flux update Brief update: It appears this WG has stalled for the foreseeable future. The chairman, Mike O'Connor, has resigned. Avri Doria sent a message this morning telling the participants to await next steps, but the WG had pretty much stalled in process already. Bureaucratic processes are not my strong suit, but should the ALAC create a short statement of advisory that we believe this is an important issue, provide some framework and definition, and encourage the GNSO to re-constitute the group? Beau ** This e-mail message is intended only for the designated recipient(s) named above. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, retain, copy, redistribute or use this e-mail or any attachment for any purpose, or disclose all or any part of its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments from your computer system. _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
Yes, I think it is an important matter to raise our voice now. izumi 2008/9/30 Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl@hovtek.com.au>:
Oh dear this is disappointing... Beau we will ensure this matter of an ALAC letter going out is on this month Agenda...
Can the RALO Reps ensure that the 'back-up' support / opinions of their constituent ALS's are sort on this please as it will be FAR more powerful if we can say and this, this and this ALS have stated their Memberships agreement to this as well...
CLO (who is about to forward this message to her own ALS and the APRALO Chair/list {subtle *hint* here for others} ;-)
-----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2008 1:50 AM To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org; NA Discuss Subject: [ALAC] Fast flux update
Brief update: It appears this WG has stalled for the foreseeable future. The chairman, Mike O'Connor, has resigned. Avri Doria sent a message this morning telling the participants to await next steps, but the WG had pretty much stalled in process already.
Bureaucratic processes are not my strong suit, but should the ALAC create a short statement of advisory that we believe this is an important issue, provide some framework and definition, and encourage the GNSO to re-constitute the group?
Beau
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In this connection, for those who are not sufficiently well-acquainted with what Fast Flux is, there is an excellent audio briefing, and the SSAC produced an equally excellent Advisory on the subject - you may find a recording of the briefing at http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/audio-briefing-05jun08.htm , and links to the document in multiple language versions at: http://www.icann.org/en/committees/security/ssac-documents.htm. Look for SAC025. On 30/09/2008 01:07, "Cheryl Langdon-Orr" <cheryl@hovtek.com.au> wrote: Oh dear this is disappointing... Beau we will ensure this matter of an ALAC letter going out is on this month Agenda... Can the RALO Reps ensure that the 'back-up' support / opinions of their constituent ALS's are sort on this please as it will be FAR more powerful if we can say and this, this and this ALS have stated their Memberships agreement to this as well... CLO (who is about to forward this message to her own ALS and the APRALO Chair/list {subtle *hint* here for others} ;-) -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2008 1:50 AM To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org; NA Discuss Subject: [ALAC] Fast flux update Brief update: It appears this WG has stalled for the foreseeable future. The chairman, Mike O'Connor, has resigned. Avri Doria sent a message this morning telling the participants to await next steps, but the WG had pretty much stalled in process already. Bureaucratic processes are not my strong suit, but should the ALAC create a short statement of advisory that we believe this is an important issue, provide some framework and definition, and encourage the GNSO to re-constitute the group? Beau ** This e-mail message is intended only for the designated recipient(s) named above. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, retain, copy, redistribute or use this e-mail or any attachment for any purpose, or disclose all or any part of its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments from your computer system. _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica... Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------ -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 578-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
Probably no action necessary at this point. See today's posts by Avri Doria and Mike Rodenbaugh on the GNSO Council list - http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/. Alan At 29/09/2008 07:07 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
Oh dear this is disappointing... Beau we will ensure this matter of an ALAC letter going out is on this month Agenda...
Can the RALO Reps ensure that the 'back-up' support / opinions of their constituent ALS's are sort on this please as it will be FAR more powerful if we can say and this, this and this ALS have stated their Memberships agreement to this as well...
CLO (who is about to forward this message to her own ALS and the APRALO Chair/list {subtle *hint* here for others} ;-)
-----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2008 1:50 AM To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org; NA Discuss Subject: [ALAC] Fast flux update
Brief update: It appears this WG has stalled for the foreseeable future. The chairman, Mike O'Connor, has resigned. Avri Doria sent a message this morning telling the participants to await next steps, but the WG had pretty much stalled in process already.
Bureaucratic processes are not my strong suit, but should the ALAC create a short statement of advisory that we believe this is an important issue, provide some framework and definition, and encourage the GNSO to re-constitute the group?
Beau
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I believe the at-large public has an interest in the consideration of fast-flux usage. I do not believe that the charter of this particular group was well formulated to help that investigation. I'd say that if ALAC supports re-constitution of a fast-flux working group, we should urge that it focus precisely on whether and how one might distinguish between abusive and benign uses of fast-flux techniques. Thanks, --Wendy Brendler, Beau wrote:
Brief update: It appears this WG has stalled for the foreseeable future. The chairman, Mike O'Connor, has resigned. Avri Doria sent a message this morning telling the participants to await next steps, but the WG had pretty much stalled in process already.
Bureaucratic processes are not my strong suit, but should the ALAC create a short statement of advisory that we believe this is an important issue, provide some framework and definition, and encourage the GNSO to re-constitute the group?
Beau
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Alan Greenberg -
Brendler, Beau -
Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
Izumi AIZU -
Nick Ashton-Hart -
Wendy Seltzer