RESULT: APRALO Poll on At-Large Board Director Candidates
Dear Colleagues, The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result: *Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count. The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now. APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result. In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded. Regards Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
Thanks Hong for the summary. Do we have a sense what the temperature is at the other RALOs? Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: APRALO Subject: [APAC-Discuss] RESULT: APRALO Poll on At-Large Board Director Candidates
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
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Each RALO has its own regional consultation method. I don't know the outcome of the others so far, although their result may have circulated internally. Hong On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Edmon <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:
Thanks Hong for the summary. Do we have a sense what the temperature is at the other RALOs? Edmon
-----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss- bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: APRALO Subject: [APAC-Discuss] RESULT: APRALO Poll on At-Large Board Director Candidates
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
Feels good to know that APRALO has shown a preference for Sebastien. :) Sivasubramanian M On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director election was quorate and ended with the following result: *Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count. Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 · Percentage voted: 36.84 Quota: 3.500 Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0% More information can be found at https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=1458gjpvST7F7yGQri9x3yLA Since the poll is anonymous, I don't have any other "result" or "details" to disclose. Thanks to all the ALSes that participated in the poll. Hong On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
Thank you, Adam At 7:11 PM +0800 11/26/10, Hong Xue wrote:
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair¹s vote in the At-Large Board Director election was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 · Percentage voted: 36.84 Quota: 3.500
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
More information can be found at https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=1458gjpvST7F7yGQri9x3yLA
Since the poll is anonymous, I don't have any other "result" or "details" to disclose. Thanks to all the ALSes that participated in the poll.
Hong
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair¹s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Hi, So the second round is only for RALO's that did not achieve a 50%er on the first round? That make this process even odder than I thought it was. a. On 26 Nov 2010, at 06:11, Hong Xue wrote:
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director election was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 · Percentage voted: 36.84 Quota: 3.500
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
More information can be found at https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=1458gjpvST7F7yGQri9x3yLA
Since the poll is anonymous, I don't have any other "result" or "details" to disclose. Thanks to all the ALSes that participated in the poll.
Hong
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Hi Avri... The second round vote => as announced yesterday is deffined in the process approved and developed by the ABSdt and is ONLY for the Electorate i.e. ALAC members not disqualified by being candidates and the Regional Votes (this is an electorate of 19 btw as NomCom had no mechanism to replace Alan's vote)... Any other mechanism (including second round voting such as EURALO is discussing on their list now) to affirm, re-establish OR alter the directed choice of candidate that they give their regional directed voters (in some RALO's they direct ALAC Members as well APRALO does not) is up to the RALO and their ALSes to decide... So lets ensure we do not confuse the "rounds"... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) On 27 November 2010 10:23, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
So the second round is only for RALO's that did not achieve a 50%er on the first round?
That make this process even odder than I thought it was.
a.
On 26 Nov 2010, at 06:11, Hong Xue wrote:
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director election was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 · Percentage voted: 36.84 Quota: 3.500
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
More information can be found at https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=1458gjpvST7F7yGQri9x3yLA
Since the poll is anonymous, I don't have any other "result" or "details" to disclose. Thanks to all the ALSes that participated in the poll.
Hong
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in
count
1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Dear Colleagues, APRALO Poll has been completely and result was announced on November 26. Please refer to my following announcement on the result. Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 · Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0% With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count. After the poll was close, two ALSes that did not participate the poll wrote to me and staff to indicate their preferred candidates. These two ALSes are: Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor, supporting *Sébastien Bachollet *; and, Internet Users Society Niue, represented by Per Darnell since November 26, supporting *Alan Greenberg*. Given that the purpose of the poll is to let all the ALSes to openly express their views, both "belated" messages were equally accepted, recored and * COUNTED*. Therefore, totally 9 (7+2) ALSes indicated their preferences. 5 (4+1) prefer *Sébastien Bachollet, *4 (3+1) prefer *Alan Greenberg*. Under such counting, Sébastien still received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 5 out of a total of 9 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count under STV. I hope I've made whole process extremely transparent and ease any doubt about unfairness. For whatever reason, any one is welcome to comment whether you want to either replace me in the vote or remove me from chair position, or both. Regards Hong Xue On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
FYI, Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor's email and preference have already been clearly announced along with the Poll result. See below announcement made on November 26. "[a]n ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded." Since the poll was anonymous, if Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor would not like to disclose its identity, I'm very sorry. The disclosure was made in response to direct allegation of the fairness of the poll. Regards Hong Xue On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
APRALO Poll has been completely and result was announced on November 26. Please refer to my following announcement on the result.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 ·
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
After the poll was close, two ALSes that did not participate the poll wrote to me and staff to indicate their preferred candidates. These two ALSes are:
Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor, supporting *Sébastien Bachollet *; and,
Internet Users Society Niue, represented by Per Darnell since November 26, supporting *Alan Greenberg*.
Given that the purpose of the poll is to let all the ALSes to openly express their views, both "belated" messages were equally accepted, recored and *COUNTED*.
Therefore, totally 9 (7+2) ALSes indicated their preferences. 5 (4+1) prefer *Sébastien Bachollet, *4 (3+1) prefer *Alan Greenberg*.
Under such counting, Sébastien still received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 5 out of a total of 9 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count under STV.
I hope I've made whole process extremely transparent and ease any doubt about unfairness.
For whatever reason, any one is welcome to comment whether you want to either replace me in the vote or remove me from chair position, or both.
Regards
Hong Xue
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
At 3:41 PM +0800 11/28/10, Hong Xue wrote:
FYI, Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor's email and preference have already been clearly announced along with the Poll result. See below announcement made on November 26.
"[a]n ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded."
Since the poll was anonymous, if Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor would not like to disclose its identity, I'm very sorry. The disclosure was made in response to direct allegation of the fairness of the poll.
I think if you read my comments carefully you will see there was no "direct allegation of the fairness of the poll". I have tried to be careful to be rather indirect when making any suggestions: this is a sensitive situation and all my comments have been intended as suggestion not recommendation. But I don't think you understand what I am trying to suggest. 12 ALS did not vote. One of them seems to have had a problem during the poll period, as a result I have suggested how they would have voted might be considered. And a way to do that might be to release the voters to vote as they think best. How the other ALS might have voted, unless they noted problems with the vote process, is it not relevant, they missed the voting period (that's the nature of elections.) Best, Adam
Regards
Hong Xue
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
APRALO Poll has been completely and result was announced on November 26. Please refer to my following announcement on the result.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 ·
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
After the poll was close, two ALSes that did not participate the poll wrote to me and staff to indicate their preferred candidates. These two ALSes are:
Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor, supporting *Sébastien Bachollet *; and,
Internet Users Society Niue, represented by Per Darnell since November 26, supporting *Alan Greenberg*.
Given that the purpose of the poll is to let all the ALSes to openly express their views, both "belated" messages were equally accepted, recored and *COUNTED*.
Therefore, totally 9 (7+2) ALSes indicated their preferences. 5 (4+1) prefer *Sébastien Bachollet, *4 (3+1) prefer *Alan Greenberg*.
Under such counting, Sébastien still received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 5 out of a total of 9 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count under STV.
I hope I've made whole process extremely transparent and ease any doubt about unfairness.
For whatever reason, any one is welcome to comment whether you want to either replace me in the vote or remove me from chair position, or both.
Regards
Hong Xue
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair¹s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Hi I have no problem with the disclosure and Hong's comment is right that an email was sent from my end for this though I didn't access the poll option but instead sent in an email that I think is a valid approach too...... On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
FYI, Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor's email and preference have already been clearly announced along with the Poll result. See below announcement made on November 26.
"[a]n ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded."
Since the poll was anonymous, if Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor would not like to disclose its identity, I'm very sorry. The disclosure was made in response to direct allegation of the fairness of the poll.
Regards
Hong Xue
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
APRALO Poll has been completely and result was announced on November 26. Please refer to my following announcement on the result.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 ·
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
After the poll was close, two ALSes that did not participate the poll wrote to me and staff to indicate their preferred candidates. These two ALSes are:
Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor, supporting *Sébastien Bachollet *; and,
Internet Users Society Niue, represented by Per Darnell since November 26, supporting *Alan Greenberg*.
Given that the purpose of the poll is to let all the ALSes to openly express their views, both "belated" messages were equally accepted, recored and *COUNTED*.
Therefore, totally 9 (7+2) ALSes indicated their preferences. 5 (4+1) prefer *Sébastien Bachollet, *4 (3+1) prefer *Alan Greenberg*.
Under such counting, Sébastien still received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 5 out of a total of 9 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count under STV.
I hope I've made whole process extremely transparent and ease any doubt about unfairness.
For whatever reason, any one is welcome to comment whether you want to either replace me in the vote or remove me from chair position, or both.
Regards
Hong Xue
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
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-- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa
Thanks Hong and you have the full support from me and ISOC-HK on this series of actions and the rationale behind that you have clearly stated. Charles 從我的 iPhone 傳送 在 2010年11月28日 15:22 時，Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> 寫到：
Dear Colleagues,
APRALO Poll has been completely and result was announced on November 26. Please refer to my following announcement on the result.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 ·
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
After the poll was close, two ALSes that did not participate the poll wrote to me and staff to indicate their preferred candidates. These two ALSes are:
Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor, supporting *Sébastien Bachollet *; and,
Internet Users Society Niue, represented by Per Darnell since November 26, supporting *Alan Greenberg*.
Given that the purpose of the poll is to let all the ALSes to openly express their views, both "belated" messages were equally accepted, recored and * COUNTED*.
Therefore, totally 9 (7+2) ALSes indicated their preferences. 5 (4+1) prefer *Sébastien Bachollet, *4 (3+1) prefer *Alan Greenberg*.
Under such counting, Sébastien still received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 5 out of a total of 9 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count under STV.
I hope I've made whole process extremely transparent and ease any doubt about unfairness.
For whatever reason, any one is welcome to comment whether you want to either replace me in the vote or remove me from chair position, or both.
Regards
Hong Xue
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Did Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor have a problem with voting, or did they, like 10 other APRALO ALSes simply miss the vote window? If the latter, then how they might have voted is irrelevant. The situation with Internet Users Society Niue appears somewhat different, they wished to vote and had a problem casting their vote. The comments imply no criticism of the APRALO chair, no replacement in anyway being suggested, I am surprised at the reaction. My point is that in the interest of fairness, it might be best to release the RALO's voters from the directed vote. People may disagree, but whatever, time is running out (and I expect some/all may have already voted.) Best, Adam At 3:22 PM +0800 11/28/10, Hong Xue wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
APRALO Poll has been completely and result was announced on November 26. Please refer to my following announcement on the result.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 ·
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
After the poll was close, two ALSes that did not participate the poll wrote to me and staff to indicate their preferred candidates. These two ALSes are:
Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor, supporting *Sébastien Bachollet *; and,
Internet Users Society Niue, represented by Per Darnell since November 26, supporting *Alan Greenberg*.
Given that the purpose of the poll is to let all the ALSes to openly express their views, both "belated" messages were equally accepted, recored and * COUNTED*.
Therefore, totally 9 (7+2) ALSes indicated their preferences. 5 (4+1) prefer *Sébastien Bachollet, *4 (3+1) prefer *Alan Greenberg*.
Under such counting, Sébastien still received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 5 out of a total of 9 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count under STV.
I hope I've made whole process extremely transparent and ease any doubt about unfairness.
For whatever reason, any one is welcome to comment whether you want to either replace me in the vote or remove me from chair position, or both.
Regards
Hong Xue
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair¹s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Hello Hong: I apologize for any confusion I may have unintentionally set in motion in my attempt to arrange for IUSN to be able to participate in the polling request for candidates for ICANN Board seat #15. I have a question: is it possible, in the interest of transparency and public information, to at least obtain the names of the 15 (8 +7 as you cite below) APRALO members who were able to successfully participate in the poll? If so, could you please post those entities' names to the public APAC list? This would in no way violate any privacy concerns with *how* each participant voted. Many thanks, Bill Semich On Nov 28, 2010, at 2:22 AM, Hong Xue wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
APRALO Poll has been completely and result was announced on November 26. Please refer to my following announcement on the result.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 ·
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
After the poll was close, two ALSes that did not participate the poll wrote to me and staff to indicate their preferred candidates. These two ALSes are:
Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor, supporting *Sébastien Bachollet *; and,
Internet Users Society Niue, represented by Per Darnell since November 26, supporting *Alan Greenberg*.
Given that the purpose of the poll is to let all the ALSes to openly express their views, both "belated" messages were equally accepted, recored and * COUNTED*.
Therefore, totally 9 (7+2) ALSes indicated their preferences. 5 (4+1) prefer *Sébastien Bachollet, *4 (3+1) prefer *Alan Greenberg*.
Under such counting, Sébastien still received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 5 out of a total of 9 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count under STV.
I hope I've made whole process extremely transparent and ease any doubt about unfairness.
For whatever reason, any one is welcome to comment whether you want to either replace me in the vote or remove me from chair position, or both.
Regards
Hong Xue
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Dear Mr. Bill Semich The full result of poll is available under: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=1458gjpvST7F7yGQri9x3yLA The following ALSes participated in the balloting: ISOC Australia ISOC Chapter India Chennai ISOC NZ At Large@China Azerbaijan Information Policy Analytical Center Japan Internet Users Network Chinese Domain Name Users Alliance Regards Hong On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:45 PM, J William Semich <bsemich@mac.com> wrote:
Hello Hong:
I apologize for any confusion I may have unintentionally set in motion in my attempt to arrange for IUSN to be able to participate in the polling request for candidates for ICANN Board seat #15.
I have a question: is it possible, in the interest of transparency and public information, to at least obtain the names of the 15 (8 +7 as you cite below) APRALO members who were able to successfully participate in the poll? If so, could you please post those entities' names to the public APAC list? This would in no way violate any privacy concerns with *how* each participant voted.
Many thanks,
Bill Semich
On Nov 28, 2010, at 2:22 AM, Hong Xue wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
APRALO Poll has been completely and result was announced on November 26. Please refer to my following announcement on the result.
Number of voters: 7 · Group size: 19 ·
Sébastien Bachollet 57.14% Alan Greenberg 42.86% Pierre Dandjinou 0%
With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
After the poll was close, two ALSes that did not participate the poll wrote to me and staff to indicate their preferred candidates. These two ALSes are:
Pakistan ICT Policy Monitor, supporting *Sébastien Bachollet *; and,
Internet Users Society Niue, represented by Per Darnell since November 26, supporting *Alan Greenberg*.
Given that the purpose of the poll is to let all the ALSes to openly express their views, both "belated" messages were equally accepted, recored and * COUNTED*.
Therefore, totally 9 (7+2) ALSes indicated their preferences. 5 (4+1) prefer *Sébastien Bachollet, *4 (3+1) prefer *Alan Greenberg*.
Under such counting, Sébastien still received more than 50% of first preferences in count 1, or 5 out of a total of 9 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count under STV.
I hope I've made whole process extremely transparent and ease any doubt about unfairness.
For whatever reason, any one is welcome to comment whether you want to either replace me in the vote or remove me from chair position, or both.
Regards
Hong Xue
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
The STV poll to guide the APRALO Chair’s vote in the At-Large Board Director selection was quorate and ended with the following result:
*Sébastien Bachollet was elected in count 1. * With Sébastien having received more than 50% of first preferences in
count
1, or 4 out of a total of 7 votes, it was not necessary to go to a second count.
The APRALO poll ended 24 November at 1000 UTC. ALAC-RALO Chair selection vote for At-Large Director ended on 25 November at 23:59 UTC. In order not to disturb the voting process, APRALO poll result was not released until the voting process ended just now.
APRALO Chair, Hong Xue, had casted her vote according to the APRALO poll result.
In addition, an ALS that did not participate in the poll wrote to all Chairs, Secretariat and Staff to indicate its support for *Sébastien Bachollet. *Its opinion is also recorded.
Regards
Hong Xue Chair of APRALO
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
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Adam Peake -
Avri Doria -
Charles Mok -
Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
Edmon -
Fouad Bajwa -
Hong Xue -
J William Semich -
Sivasubramanian M