Thanks Holly, The link may spilt in email, so a copy and paste of the end part. I will try it on a new line though. http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d&tabid=803 A recorded history of the development of the Internet is a major issue in many countries, because as you say, it is in peoples heads and personal emails. I am hoping there is enough interest within the RALO's to re investigate some of these issues raised here, of Indigenous Peoples Intellectual Property and sovereign nations. I suspect the IP could fit in well or alongside the IP of IDN's? Regards, Karaitiana Taiuru -----Original Message----- From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 10:21 a.m. To: NZMIS Chairperson Cc: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org; apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] Uncharted Domains and the New Land Rush: Indigenous Rights to Top-Level Domain Hi KT - and others First - the link to the actual research doesn't work. Could you check it please? But the background does make Yan's research look very interesting. And what she is saying is so true for this area. For much of the Internet, including ICANN, the knowledge is not in libraries (including online libraries) or in journals It is on websites, it is in the heads of the people who are involved - which makes it both more challenging and interesting. Holly On 09/05/2013, at 6:13 PM, NZMIS Chairperson wrote:

Greetings,

As representative groups of Internet users, and as many of us are discussing how best to represent our communities; you may be interested in this students award winning research on ICANN, GTLD's and Indigenous Domain Names, Intellectual Property etc., all of which impact all regions in the world. Perhaps some of the concerns can be raised again in ALAC?

Background: http://www.law.asu.edu/News/CollegeofLawNews.aspx?NewsId=4454

Research: http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d <http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d&tabid =803> &tabid=803

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Hi Rinala et all, This is a positive step forward with so many Indigenous Peoples being effected whom have no voice. Eric Brunner-Williams from NARLO is a leader in this area who was also prominently featured in the research. I am certainly keen to initiate and contribute for APRALO and do what ever else I can to assist. Cheers, Karaitiana Taiuru From: Rinalia Abdul Rahim [mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 11:29 a.m. To: NZMIS Chairperson Cc: ALAC Working List; apralo; Holly Raiche Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] Uncharted Domains and the New Land Rush: Indigenous Rights to Top-Level Domain Hi, KT. The unrecognized/under-recognized IP of special groups including those of indigenous communities was one of the 4 initial issue areas that I identified for the APRALO Multistakeholder Policy Roundtable in Beijing - we did not have sufficient capacity to deal with the issue then. I am really glad that you are bringing this issue up now and it would be fantastic if the region mobilizes and takes the leadership on it. But we need a driver for the issue and I am hoping that you would be willing to take the lead (eg, initiating consultations, drafting statements if applicable or contributing relevant sections in statements drafted by others in the ALAC and in APRALO, etc). I would be happy to discuss a strategy for mobilization on this with you if you would find it useful. And yes, I agree that IP and IP related to IDNs are angles that the region can pursue the issue. Best regards, Rinalia On May 10, 2013 6:52 AM, "NZMIS Chairperson" <chairperson@nzmis.maori.nz> wrote: Thanks Holly, The link may spilt in email, so a copy and paste of the end part. I will try it on a new line though. http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d <http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d&tabid=803> &tabid=803 A recorded history of the development of the Internet is a major issue in many countries, because as you say, it is in peoples heads and personal emails. I am hoping there is enough interest within the RALO's to re investigate some of these issues raised here, of Indigenous Peoples Intellectual Property and sovereign nations. I suspect the IP could fit in well or alongside the IP of IDN's? Regards, Karaitiana Taiuru -----Original Message----- From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 10:21 a.m. To: NZMIS Chairperson Cc: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org; apac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] Uncharted Domains and the New Land Rush: Indigenous Rights to Top-Level Domain Hi KT - and others First - the link to the actual research doesn't work. Could you check it please? But the background does make Yan's research look very interesting. And what she is saying is so true for this area. For much of the Internet, including ICANN, the knowledge is not in libraries (including online libraries) or in journals It is on websites, it is in the heads of the people who are involved - which makes it both more challenging and interesting. Holly On 09/05/2013, at 6:13 PM, NZMIS Chairperson wrote:

Greetings,

As representative groups of Internet users, and as many of us are discussing how best to represent our communities; you may be interested in this students award winning research on ICANN, GTLD's and Indigenous Domain Names, Intellectual Property etc., all of which impact all regions in the world. Perhaps some of the concerns can be raised again in ALAC?

Background: http://www.law.asu.edu/News/CollegeofLawNews.aspx?NewsId=4454

Research: http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d <http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d <http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d&tabid> &tabid =803> &tabid=803

Regards,

Karaitiana Taiuru

Web: <http://www.taiuru.maori.nz> http://www.taiuru.maori.nz

Skype/MSN/Google/Twitter/LinkedIn: ktaiuru

Ph: +64 21 0707507 <tel:%2B64%2021%200707507>

PO Box 10286

Christchurch 8145

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*Hello Holly & All,* * * *- if the link does not work, try this one * *http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d&tabid=803 * * * *- Very interesting paper, on a subject too rarely addressed. This is the author's summary:* *"*In this paper, I will argue that the failure to assign country codes to indigenous tribes has deprived sovereign nations of economic opportunities and intellectual property rights and protections associated with top-level domain assignments and administration. Part I outlines the recent opening up of top-level domains to generic names. It also goes into a brief history of top- level domain assignments, including those issued to countries as country code top-level domains. Part II provides examples of how sovereign entities and cultural groups that were not part of initial top-level domain delegations have mobilized for assignments. Part III attempts to critically examine the systematic hierarchy that continues to exclude sovereigns today, particularly through the contexts of critical race theories, federal Indian law and property rights regimes in the United States. Because of the potential implications resulting from this exclusion, this paper will explore domestic and international safeguards and options for indigenous tribes, as well as possible remedies to this problem.*"* * * *I don't know about the technicalities, but some of the social implications are the same as for IDN and IDN Variants.* * * *Regards,* *Jean-Jacques.* 2013/5/10 Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net>

Hi KT - and others

First - the link to the actual research doesn't work. Could you check it please?

But the background does make Yan's research look very interesting. And what she is saying is so true for this area. For much of the Internet, including ICANN, the knowledge is not in libraries (including online libraries) or in journals It is on websites, it is in the heads of the people who are involved - which makes it both more challenging and interesting.

Holly

On 09/05/2013, at 6:13 PM, NZMIS Chairperson wrote:

...

Greetings,

As representative groups of Internet users, and as many of us are discussing how best to represent our communities; you may be interested in this students award winning research on ICANN, GTLD's and Indigenous Domain Names, Intellectual Property etc., all of which impact all regions in the world. Perhaps some of the concerns can be raised again in ALAC?

Background: http://www.law.asu.edu/News/CollegeofLawNews.aspx?NewsId=4454

Research: http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d < http://www.law.asu.edu/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=67fmPnuMWEY%3d&tabid=803> &tabid=803

Regards,

Karaitiana Taiuru

Web: <http://www.taiuru.maori.nz> http://www.taiuru.maori.nz

Skype/MSN/Google/Twitter/LinkedIn: ktaiuru

Ph: +64 21 0707507

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