Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page
Hi Maureen - and everyone This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet. PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Hi Silvia
It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations.
I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections...
As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is…
Regards Maureen
Dear Holly et all, The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION § 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace-<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL...> Nominations now open through 3 May 2013! * 2013-2015 APRALO ALAC Representative Workspace<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Representat...> - Nominations now open through 23 May 2013 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40931670> See: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Representat... The page Maureen is pointing out is a WIKI which was created to consolidate All RALO elections happening in 2013. And I will input the APRALO information there as well. https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections... Regarding your point regarding the list of all APRALO ALS is under APRALO ALSs<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes> see: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes (List ALS with logos) and http://www.atlarge.icann.org/applications?tid_1=161&tid_2=791 Regarding your point re the no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. One way to find links is to go to the main APRALO WIKI and from there you have an overview of what is important, including the latest information and the child pages. See below. https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266081 Thank you for your feedback! Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011 From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 5:26 PM To: Maureen Hilyard Cc: Silvia Vivanco; ICANN At-Large Staff; ALAC Working List; APRALO Discuss Subject: Re: APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page Hi Maureen - and everyone This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet. PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: Hi Silvia It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations. I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated. https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections... As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is... Regards Maureen
Hi, I still cannot find listed on the wiki the names of the ALSes with which all the "nominators" (not the nominees or candidates) and the "supporters" are affiliated. It would be good to make it available for our better information. The page I went to is https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL... . Hong On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org>wrote:
Dear Holly et all, The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION
§ 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace-< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL...> Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
* 2013-2015 APRALO ALAC Representative Workspace< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Representat...> - Nominations now open through 23 May 2013 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40931670>
See:
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Representat...
The page Maureen is pointing out is a WIKI which was created to consolidate All RALO elections happening in 2013. And I will input the APRALO information there as well.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections... Regarding your point regarding the list of all APRALO ALS is under APRALO ALSs<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes> see: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes (List ALS with logos) and http://www.atlarge.icann.org/applications?tid_1=161&tid_2=791 Regarding your point re the no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. One way to find links is to go to the main APRALO WIKI and from there you have an overview of what is important, including the latest information and the child pages. See below. https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266081 Thank you for your feedback!
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 5:26 PM To: Maureen Hilyard Cc: Silvia Vivanco; ICANN At-Large Staff; ALAC Working List; APRALO Discuss Subject: Re: APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page
Hi Maureen - and everyone
This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet.
PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up.
Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Hi Silvia
It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations.
I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections...
As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is...
Regards Maureen
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On the same page Hong refers to, and I do support adding who is associated to what ALS; I believe Cheryl and I nominated/seconded or at least voiced our support an appreciation to the current secretariat? My recollection may be clouded in this occasion. Karaitiana Taiuru The New Zealand Maori Internet Society http://www.nzmis.maori.nz -----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2013 2:37 p.m. To: Silvia Vivanco Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; APRALO Discuss; ALAC Working List Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page Hi, I still cannot find listed on the wiki the names of the ALSes with which all the "nominators" (not the nominees or candidates) and the "supporters" are affiliated. It would be good to make it available for our better information. The page I went to is https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL O+Chair%2C+Vice-Chair+and+Secretariat .. Hong On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org>wrote:
Dear Holly et all, The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION
§ 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace-< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+- +APRALO+Chair%2C+Vice-Chair+and+Secretariat> Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
* 2013-2015 APRALO ALAC Representative Workspace< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Repre sentative+Selection+Workspace> - Nominations now open through 23 May 2013 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40931670>
See:
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Repre sentative+Selection+Workspace
The page Maureen is pointing out is a WIKI which was created to consolidate All RALO elections happening in 2013. And I will input the APRALO information there as well.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Ele ctions%2C+Selections+and+Appointments+2013 Regarding your point regarding the list of all APRALO ALS is under APRALO ALSs<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes> see: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes (List ALS with logos) and http://www.atlarge.icann.org/applications?tid_1=161&tid_2=791 Regarding your point re the no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. One way to find links is to go to the main APRALO WIKI and from there you have an overview of what is important, including the latest information and the child pages. See below. https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266081 Thank you for your feedback!
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 5:26 PM To: Maureen Hilyard Cc: Silvia Vivanco; ICANN At-Large Staff; ALAC Working List; APRALO Discuss Subject: Re: APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page
Hi Maureen - and everyone
This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet.
PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up.
Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Hi Silvia
It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations.
I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Ele ctions%2C+Selections+and+Appointments+2013
As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is...
Regards Maureen
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Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Hello all, I am adding affiliations as requested. Karaitiana , I will add your support to the current Secretariat. Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011 -----Original Message----- From: NZMIS Chairperson [mailto:chairperson@nzmis.maori.nz] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:41 PM To: 'Hong Xue'; Silvia Vivanco Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; 'APRALO Discuss'; 'ALAC Working List' Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page On the same page Hong refers to, and I do support adding who is associated to what ALS; I believe Cheryl and I nominated/seconded or at least voiced our support an appreciation to the current secretariat? My recollection may be clouded in this occasion. Karaitiana Taiuru The New Zealand Maori Internet Society http://www.nzmis.maori.nz -----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2013 2:37 p.m. To: Silvia Vivanco Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; APRALO Discuss; ALAC Working List Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page Hi, I still cannot find listed on the wiki the names of the ALSes with which all the "nominators" (not the nominees or candidates) and the "supporters" are affiliated. It would be good to make it available for our better information. The page I went to is https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL O+Chair%2C+Vice-Chair+and+Secretariat .. Hong On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org>wrote:
Dear Holly et all, The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION
§ 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace-< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+- +APRALO+Chair%2C+Vice-Chair+and+Secretariat> Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
* 2013-2015 APRALO ALAC Representative Workspace< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Repre sentative+Selection+Workspace> - Nominations now open through 23 May 2013 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40931670>
See:
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Repre sentative+Selection+Workspace
The page Maureen is pointing out is a WIKI which was created to consolidate All RALO elections happening in 2013. And I will input the APRALO information there as well.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Ele ctions%2C+Selections+and+Appointments+2013 Regarding your point regarding the list of all APRALO ALS is under APRALO ALSs<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes> see: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes (List ALS with logos) and http://www.atlarge.icann.org/applications?tid_1=161&tid_2=791 Regarding your point re the no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. One way to find links is to go to the main APRALO WIKI and from there you have an overview of what is important, including the latest information and the child pages. See below. https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266081 Thank you for your feedback!
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 5:26 PM To: Maureen Hilyard Cc: Silvia Vivanco; ICANN At-Large Staff; ALAC Working List; APRALO Discuss Subject: Re: APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page
Hi Maureen - and everyone
This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet.
PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up.
Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Hi Silvia
It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations.
I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Ele ctions%2C+Selections+and+Appointments+2013
As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is...
Regards Maureen
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
-- Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China _______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org
Dear Hong et all, The ALS affiliations have been added to the Election WIKI as requested. Thank you! Kind regards, Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011 -----Original Message----- From: Silvia Vivanco Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 11:20 AM To: NZMIS Chairperson; 'Hong Xue' Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; 'APRALO Discuss'; 'ALAC Working List' Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page Hello all, I am adding affiliations as requested. Karaitiana , I will add your support to the current Secretariat. Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011 -----Original Message----- From: NZMIS Chairperson [mailto:chairperson@nzmis.maori.nz] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:41 PM To: 'Hong Xue'; Silvia Vivanco Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; 'APRALO Discuss'; 'ALAC Working List' Subject: RE: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page On the same page Hong refers to, and I do support adding who is associated to what ALS; I believe Cheryl and I nominated/seconded or at least voiced our support an appreciation to the current secretariat? My recollection may be clouded in this occasion. Karaitiana Taiuru The New Zealand Maori Internet Society http://www.nzmis.maori.nz -----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2013 2:37 p.m. To: Silvia Vivanco Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; APRALO Discuss; ALAC Working List Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page Hi, I still cannot find listed on the wiki the names of the ALSes with which all the "nominators" (not the nominees or candidates) and the "supporters" are affiliated. It would be good to make it available for our better information. The page I went to is https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+-+APRAL O+Chair%2C+Vice-Chair+and+Secretariat .. Hong On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco@icann.org>wrote:
Dear Holly et all, The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION
§ 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace-< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013+APRALO+Election+call+- +APRALO+Chair%2C+Vice-Chair+and+Secretariat> Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
* 2013-2015 APRALO ALAC Representative Workspace< https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Repre sentative+Selection+Workspace> - Nominations now open through 23 May 2013 <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40931670>
See:
https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/2013-2015+APRALO+ALAC+Repre sentative+Selection+Workspace
The page Maureen is pointing out is a WIKI which was created to consolidate All RALO elections happening in 2013. And I will input the APRALO information there as well.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Ele ctions%2C+Selections+and+Appointments+2013 Regarding your point regarding the list of all APRALO ALS is under APRALO ALSs<https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes> see: https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+ALSes (List ALS with logos) and http://www.atlarge.icann.org/applications?tid_1=161&tid_2=791 Regarding your point re the no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up. One way to find links is to go to the main APRALO WIKI and from there you have an overview of what is important, including the latest information and the child pages. See below. https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2266081 Thank you for your feedback!
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
From: Holly Raiche [mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 5:26 PM To: Maureen Hilyard Cc: Silvia Vivanco; ICANN At-Large Staff; ALAC Working List; APRALO Discuss Subject: Re: APRALO election details on main ALAC RALO page
Hi Maureen - and everyone
This is exactly my complaint, and what others like Carlton have recently expressed frustration over. If we are to make use of the website as a communications tool, then there should be clear and logical paths from the ICANN home page, to groups, to ALAC and then to the RALOs. One of my recent frustrations is that the link from the APRALO page to the ALS structures for APRALO goes nowhere - and I spent a futile 15 minutes trying to find the page that lists APRALO ALSs - and gave up. Now for an APRALO election, the link isn't from the APRALO page. If we are serious about Internet users, then we should at the least make it easy for all of us to communicate using the Internet.
PLEASE - no more creating links without tying them back to the place people will go to look for them. If it's too hard to find stuff, they give up.
Holly On 07/05/2013, at 6:37 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Hi Silvia
It is really difficult to find the wiki for the APRALO nominations.
I did however, locate the main ALAC page which already lists details of LACRALO elections (link below) does not give ANY information about proposed nominees for the APRALO Chair, Vice Chair or Secretariat; and the timeline is also not indicated.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Ele ctions%2C+Selections+and+Appointments+2013
As this was the one page I could find, then it would be helpful to have the APRALO information on it.. perhaps with a link to the other wiki page wherever it is...
Regards Maureen
_______________________________________________ APAC-Discuss mailing list APAC-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss
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Hi Everyone I appreciate the confusion people are feeling, and views about what is or is not proceeding. The election timetable for APRALO officers has not been changed. Silvia's link below takes you to the page with the nominees and a timetable. As you can see, nominations are now closed and the elections will be held from May 17 to June 7. Please note, the candidates for the VC position include YJ, Siranush and Satish. Maureen has withdrawn.
The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can be found in the main APRALO WIKI under : ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION § 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace- Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
What has changed is the timetable for the elections for an APRALO representative to ALAC. The notice - below - explains where we are up to - which is taking a poll of ARPALO ALSs as to whether to continue the current process or to delay it, allowing time for the provision of information on ALAC. Right now, there is only one nominee, and I think it is fair to say that there would be more if the discussion on whether to hold the nominations had not begun. Whether KT is right legally, he is right that, whatever the outcome of the poll, we should start afresh on nominations for the ALAC position to ensure that everyone who wants to nominate has had an opportunity to do so. To do otherwise would not be fair to all. So please think through both whether you want to hold the nominations for the ALAC position sooner than 27 May, or whether we should wait until there has been an opportunity for people who may want to nominate to have information on what it means to be a member of ALAC. Thanks Holly Dear All, On behalf of APRALO leadership, a poll pertaining to the schedule of the selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC, whose term will begin at the end of the ICANN Annual General Meeting (AGM) scheduled for 17-21 November 2013 will be beginning shortly. This position is currently held by Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro. Two arguments have been presented for consideration: (1) Proceed with the process as scheduled - The selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC should start immediately in order to have the optimal transition of role between the existing and replacement of our representatives on the ALAC in time for the AGM. (2) Delay the process until a webinar on the ALAC role has been held - The process should be delayed until a webinar is held as the role requires a certain level of awareness-raising and exchanges in terms of performance expectations, required skill and knowledge sets, workload coping mechanisms, etc. The webinar should happen prior to the nomination process so that interested individuals and voters have a good understanding of what is required. THEREFORE, a poll is being opened to determine which path APRALO would take. The question of the poll (to be sent by staff shortly) is: "It has been proposed by an ALS Member that the current selection schedule for the APRALO ALAC Representative 2013-2015 be re-scheduled to the following to accommodate a webinar on the ALAC role. APRALO Representative to the ALAC 2013-2015 Selection Schedule: May 27th - At-Large Staff and APRALO’s Chair announce selections and call for nominations. May 27th – June 14th June - Nomination period (nominations accepted for 3 weeks). June 21st - Deadline for nomination acceptances (nominees must accept nominations no later than seven days after the nomination period ends on June 14th). June 28h – July 5th - Elections (If required, elections will begin no later than one week after the deadline for nomination acceptances and end no later than two weeks after that deadline). 2013 AGM [ 17th - 21st November ] - Newly elected APRALO ALAC representative shall be seated on the ALAC at the close of the 2013 AGM on Thursday, 21st November 2013. Note: With the re-scheduling as indicated above, a webinar will be organized between now and the 27th May 2013 on the ALAC role for APRALO. Do you agree that the call for the APRALO Representative 2013-2015 selection schedule be re-scheduled to start on May 27th and end on July 12th 2013? Yes No Abstain”
Holly re some of the points you make below regarding the call for nominations for an APRALO Representative to the ALAC for end 2013-2015... Couple of things... In no particular order... There is more than 1 nominee for the role already Mareen has been nominated and seconded so is at least running against Fouads self nomination received... Why the page has not been updated yet however is a damn good question as I saw a note to list from our staff stating it would be. :-(:-(:-( And as there has been NO formal interuption, withdrawal or suspension of the call that duly began on May 3rd it is in my view still proceeding as per its advertised schedule so nominees and aspirants for the role might wish to note that... We are indeed running a poll IF it results in a desire to interupt/restart the process begun and continuing then sure we restart with new schedule and questions re standing and treatment of npminations already duly received etc., were already raised by me but yet to be discussed or responded to... If a NO vote to the poll prevails then nothong has changed to the existong call for nominations schedule and we still remain open for nominations until the proposed date so I disagree with the proposal to start over in that circumstance... The nominations under the current process still runs to 23rd May so there is ample time for people to apply post poll IF it gets a No vote (as I trust it will) CLO from my Mobile phone On 09/05/2013 3:57 PM, "Holly Raiche" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote:
Hi Everyone
I appreciate the confusion people are feeling, and views about what is or is not proceeding.
The election timetable for APRALO officers has not been changed. Silvia's link below takes you to the page with the nominees and a timetable. As you can see, nominations are now closed and the elections will be held from May 17 to June 7. Please note, the candidates for the VC position include YJ, Siranush and Satish. Maureen has withdrawn.
The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can
be found in the main APRALO WIKI under :
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION § 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace- Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
What has changed is the timetable for the elections for an APRALO representative to ALAC. The notice - below - explains where we are up to - which is taking a poll of ARPALO ALSs as to whether to continue the current process or to delay it, allowing time for the provision of information on ALAC. Right now, there is only one nominee, and I think it is fair to say that there would be more if the discussion on whether to hold the nominations had not begun.
Whether KT is right legally, he is right that, whatever the outcome of the poll, we should start afresh on nominations for the ALAC position to ensure that everyone who wants to nominate has had an opportunity to do so. To do otherwise would not be fair to all.
So please think through both whether you want to hold the nominations for the ALAC position sooner than 27 May, or whether we should wait until there has been an opportunity for people who may want to nominate to have information on what it means to be a member of ALAC.
Thanks
Holly
Dear All,
On behalf of APRALO leadership, a poll pertaining to the schedule of the selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC, whose term will begin at the end of the ICANN Annual General Meeting (AGM) scheduled for 17-21 November 2013 will be beginning shortly. This position is currently held by Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro.
Two arguments have been presented for consideration:
(1) Proceed with the process as scheduled - The selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC should start immediately in order to have the optimal transition of role between the existing and replacement of our representatives on the ALAC in time for the AGM.
(2) Delay the process until a webinar on the ALAC role has been held - The process should be delayed until a webinar is held as the role requires a certain level of awareness-raising and exchanges in terms of performance expectations, required skill and knowledge sets, workload coping mechanisms, etc. The webinar should happen prior to the nomination process so that interested individuals and voters have a good understanding of what is required.
THEREFORE, a poll is being opened to determine which path APRALO would take.
The question of the poll (to be sent by staff shortly) is:
"It has been proposed by an ALS Member that the current selection schedule for the APRALO ALAC Representative 2013-2015 be re-scheduled to the following to accommodate a webinar on the ALAC role.
APRALO Representative to the ALAC 2013-2015 Selection Schedule: May 27th - At-Large Staff and APRALO’s Chair announce selections and call for nominations. May 27th – June 14th June - Nomination period (nominations accepted for 3 weeks). June 21st - Deadline for nomination acceptances (nominees must accept nominations no later than seven days after the nomination period ends on June 14th). June 28h – July 5th - Elections (If required, elections will begin no later than one week after the deadline for nomination acceptances and end no later than two weeks after that deadline). 2013 AGM [ 17th - 21st November ] - Newly elected APRALO ALAC representative shall be seated on the ALAC at the close of the 2013 AGM on Thursday, 21st November 2013.
Note: With the re-scheduling as indicated above, a webinar will be organized between now and the 27th May 2013 on the ALAC role for APRALO.
Do you agree that the call for the APRALO Representative 2013-2015 selection schedule be re-scheduled to start on May 27th and end on July 12th 2013? Yes No Abstain”
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Dear all, We have had so many conflicting suggestions/information and dates that have arisen from the need to have this vote. Is it possible for staff (or someone) to please produce one concise email and or wiki page stating the dates for: (a) The vote for an ALAC member. (b) The vote for a change in the timeline for an ALAC member. (c) If the vote in (b) is in favour of a change. AND please update the nominations page. ----------------------------------- NOMINEES Those who have been/will be nominated for an ALAC position. I think it would be beneficial to all of APRALO if you provided a statement about yourself and explaining what skills you have to bring to ALAC and your involvement in ICANN. Regards, Karaitiana Taiuru (KT) -----Original Message----- From: apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:apac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl Langdon-Orr Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013 6:44 p.m. To: Holly Raiche Cc: APRALO; ICANN AtLarge Staff; ALAC Working List Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] [ALAC] APRALO elections Holly re some of the points you make below regarding the call for nominations for an APRALO Representative to the ALAC for end 2013-2015... Couple of things... In no particular order... There is more than 1 nominee for the role already Mareen has been nominated and seconded so is at least running against Fouads self nomination received... Why the page has not been updated yet however is a damn good question as I saw a note to list from our staff stating it would be. :-(:-(:-( And as there has been NO formal interuption, withdrawal or suspension of the call that duly began on May 3rd it is in my view still proceeding as per its advertised schedule so nominees and aspirants for the role might wish to note that... We are indeed running a poll IF it results in a desire to interupt/restart the process begun and continuing then sure we restart with new schedule and questions re standing and treatment of npminations already duly received etc., were already raised by me but yet to be discussed or responded to... If a NO vote to the poll prevails then nothong has changed to the existong call for nominations schedule and we still remain open for nominations until the proposed date so I disagree with the proposal to start over in that circumstance... The nominations under the current process still runs to 23rd May so there is ample time for people to apply post poll IF it gets a No vote (as I trust it will) CLO from my Mobile phone On 09/05/2013 3:57 PM, "Holly Raiche" <h.raiche@internode.on.net> wrote:
Hi Everyone
I appreciate the confusion people are feeling, and views about what is or is not proceeding.
The election timetable for APRALO officers has not been changed. Silvia's link below takes you to the page with the nominees and a timetable. As you can see, nominations are now closed and the elections will be held from May 17 to June 7. Please note, the candidates for the VC position include YJ, Siranush and Satish. Maureen has withdrawn.
The APRALO Wiki page created for the Chair and Vice Chair election can
be found in the main APRALO WIKI under :
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND APRALO INFORMATION § 2013 APRALO Elections Workspace- Nominations now open through 3 May 2013!
What has changed is the timetable for the elections for an APRALO representative to ALAC. The notice - below - explains where we are up to - which is taking a poll of ARPALO ALSs as to whether to continue the current process or to delay it, allowing time for the provision of information on ALAC. Right now, there is only one nominee, and I think it is fair to say that there would be more if the discussion on whether to hold the nominations had not begun.
Whether KT is right legally, he is right that, whatever the outcome of the poll, we should start afresh on nominations for the ALAC position to ensure that everyone who wants to nominate has had an opportunity to do so. To do otherwise would not be fair to all.
So please think through both whether you want to hold the nominations for the ALAC position sooner than 27 May, or whether we should wait until there has been an opportunity for people who may want to nominate to have information on what it means to be a member of ALAC.
Thanks
Holly
Dear All,
On behalf of APRALO leadership, a poll pertaining to the schedule of the selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC, whose term will begin at the end of the ICANN Annual General Meeting (AGM) scheduled for 17-21 November 2013 will be beginning shortly. This position is currently held by Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro.
Two arguments have been presented for consideration:
(1) Proceed with the process as scheduled - The selection process for the 2013-2015 APRALO representative to the ALAC should start immediately in order to have the optimal transition of role between the existing and replacement of our representatives on the ALAC in time for the AGM.
(2) Delay the process until a webinar on the ALAC role has been held - The process should be delayed until a webinar is held as the role requires a certain level of awareness-raising and exchanges in terms of performance expectations, required skill and knowledge sets, workload coping mechanisms, etc. The webinar should happen prior to the nomination process so that interested individuals and voters have a good understanding of what is required.
THEREFORE, a poll is being opened to determine which path APRALO would take.
The question of the poll (to be sent by staff shortly) is:
"It has been proposed by an ALS Member that the current selection schedule for the APRALO ALAC Representative 2013-2015 be re-scheduled to the following to accommodate a webinar on the ALAC role.
APRALO Representative to the ALAC 2013-2015 Selection Schedule: May 27th - At-Large Staff and APRALOs Chair announce selections and call for nominations. May 27th June 14th June - Nomination period (nominations accepted for 3 weeks). June 21st - Deadline for nomination acceptances (nominees must accept nominations no later than seven days after the nomination period ends on June 14th). June 28h July 5th - Elections (If required, elections will begin no later than one week after the deadline for nomination acceptances and end no later than two weeks after that deadline). 2013 AGM [ 17th - 21st November ] - Newly elected APRALO ALAC representative shall be seated on the ALAC at the close of the 2013 AGM on Thursday, 21st November 2013.
Note: With the re-scheduling as indicated above, a webinar will be organized between now and the 27th May 2013 on the ALAC role for APRALO.
Do you agree that the call for the APRALO Representative 2013-2015 selection schedule be re-scheduled to start on May 27th and end on July 12th 2013? Yes No Abstain
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HI Everyone Just a reminder - and those of you who did not vote earlier will have received a reminder - today is the last day to vote on the timing of the election process for the APRALO election to ALAC. So Silvia, please let me know ASAP what the outcome is. (the outcome will be determined by a majority of the votes cast) If the outcome is to proceed with the existing schedule, then we can continue, as follows: 13 May - call for nominations, with nomination period to end 23 May Noting: for those who have nominated, please reconfirm the nomination and seconding. 23-30 May - acceptances for nominations Noting again: for those who have accepted a nomination, please reconfirm your acceptance 7 -13 June - election period. If the poll is to delay the elections, the schedule will be: between 14 May and 3 June - Webinar on ALAC Membership - (this will allow time for the organisation of the webinar and for those considering ALAC membership to attend the webinar and join in a discussion about ALAC membership) 27 May - 14 June - call for nominations 21 June - end of period for acceptance of nominations 28 June - 5 July - elections. So please - vote if you have not already done so. Holly
participants (5)
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Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
Holly Raiche -
Hong Xue -
NZMIS Chairperson -
Silvia Vivanco