I agree with Luc that atlarge is more descriptive than alac for a list where we invite the public to discuss ICANN issues with ALAC members and carry out ALAC's business. Can I suggest that we create a new list, atlarge, open subscription and invite everyone on all the ALAC's lists to subscribe to it? When everyone from the ALAC committee is there, we can then address as a second step whether to close the ALAC-only list and keep all conversation with the atlarge. Thanks, --Wendy Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
The way to do that is for people to join the main ALAC list.
Posts to ALAC do go to the regional lists, but only from those who are subscribed to it...
On 07/02/07, Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Ok Nick, but let's be sure people know where to post what.
Do we have a way to exchange between all the at-large communities within ICANN, the equivalent of the sum of all *-discuss lists?
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------------------------------ *From:* nashtonhart@gmail.com [mailto:nashtonhart@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick Ashton-Hart *Sent:* 6 février 2007 13:48 *To:* Luc Faubert *Cc:* Wendy Seltzer; alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org *Subject:* Re: List consolidation proposal
If we could avoid renaming existing lists that would be helpful. Doing so means literally recreating them, their configuration, and resubscribing all members.
As to the -ALS lists: The main purpose of these would be to provide a forum where accredited ALSes could act as the General Assembly of their regional RALO for the purposes of voting, nomination of candidates for RALO officers (where those exist), nominations of ALAC reps for the regions and voting on the same, etc. The discuss lists were meant to be precisely what they have become - open for all to join and discuss. If a region wishes to delete the -ALS list as they wish to conduct these 'official' functions on the discuss list or via some other mechanism then let me know and we'll delete them.
Perhaps each region can discuss this individually on their -Discuss list and come to a common view.
On 06/02/07, Luc Faubert < LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
I also agree with Wendy's proposal for list consolidation and use of ICANNwiki.
I suggest the following changes to the names of the lists however:
alac -> atlarge alac-internal -> alac
As for North America, let's keep na-discuss and eliminate na-als, as Wendy suggests,
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-----Original Message----- From: na-als-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: na-als-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: 6 février 2007 07:35 To: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [NA-ALS] [ALAC] List consolidation proposal
First off, thanks very much to Nick for finally helping us to get ALAC communications under our control and for tracking down ALS contacts to add to lists. Now, though, we have an embarrassment of riches -- so many lists that it's hard to know where to send and hard for the recipients to continue the discussion because they're fragmented among many one-way lists.
I propose the following for the lists @ atlarge-lists.icann.org:
alac -- public archive, open membership, list for general ALAC business. Open for posting to any interested party (including the memberships of *-Discuss and *-ALS).
alac-internal -- ALAC members only, no public archive, LIMITED use (e.g., what time's the conference call)
regional lists -- at the option of regions' ALSs and individuals, for discussion of region-specific business. Publicly archived; open or closed at regions' option. For NA, I propose consolidation down to NA-Discuss, open membership.
Finally, on the wikis, I propose using ICANNwiki exclusively, rather than the closed, publicly invisible Socialtext site.
As the ALAC is supposed to represent the interests of the individual Internet users, we should be holding more conversations with them!
Thanks, --Wendy
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/
_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-l ists.icann.org
_______________________________________________ NA-ALS mailing list NA-ALS@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-als_atlarge -lists.icann.org
_______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica...
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