Michele: Thanks for telling me what I know. Notice what I said. Maybe I was too cryptic to follow I know the distinction - and by virtue, the implications for dropping out! - between a tld owner and a domain name investor. Sure, as a brand tld, the registrar's (your?) interest is zero zip; not a dime to you and the immediate interest of the "normal" registrant. Yessir, I agree. The disconnect seems to be what that could mean for the overall market in general and ICANN, in particular. One less tld in the root may not actually mean less expansion. Because to paraphrase one Englishman, one swallow does not make a summer. Get two, three, four others seeing the "light", now that might be something, isn't it? Consider the direct ICANN impact. Last time they took in what, $185K apiece from each brand owner for the right to get in on the ground floor. I believe these flow as income somewhere to the ICANN pot and actually expresses continued viability and vitality for the GDD, seeing they do get a few cents for each domain name declared and "sold". Forget the $185K down the drain some brand retire and turn in their license. I posit when some brand owner decides a tld investment is neither a strategic investment nor shiny toy today, it sends a chilling effect on what might be the next round now bandied about. Those who will hear the next bright strategist say I think we ought to get a tld for brand protection and service impact or whatever, some grizzled ole fool will be sufficiently empowered to tell him sit down before you hurt yourself. As for the retail side, keep a keen eye on the renewals, especially for all those 'parked' domains held by Eastern investors. If you see a dip in their renewals, then we might be witnessing a wave, not just an indicator. Then we would have a real worry. -Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 3:27 AM Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
Carlton
It’s a .brand – zero “normal” registrants or users will be impacted
If it was a TLD with actual registrations then it would be a totally different matter, but it isn’t.
Regards
Michele
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*From: *At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> *Date: *Tuesday 10 July 2018 at 21:10 *To: *At-Large Worldwide <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, " lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org" < lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject: *[At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista
Maybe we should track these 'returns/abandonments' and in context, [re]read the recommendations of the Subsequent Procedures WG?
Saw a story of a domain investor account of his return on investment so far; he's in the red with diminishing prospects.
On top of these kind of stories that speak to the conditions in the end user market and the 'retired and/or abandoned gLTDs, it just seems 'otherworldly' to me that in all the happy talk of new rounds, this idea that demand has something to do with markets is largely left unmentioned. Helluva thing!
https://domainnamewire.com/2018/07/10/vistaprint-drops-vista-top-level-domai...
-Carlton
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