Izumi: well done!!! I totally agree with you. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 www.sitioderecho.com.ar www.densi.com.ar > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:20:08 +0900> From: iza@anr.org> To: ajp@glocom.ac.jp> CC: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org; dannyyounger@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Budget & Finance SubCommittee Meeting> > Thanks Adam, your comments are mostly, if not all,> on target.> > Danny, I don't understand why you are targeting at something> totally outside your own region. AP region has been trying to> raise awareness on ICANN and AtLarge, and APNG is one> good area, among others, to reach out future generations.> I understand you spend 30 minutes on google or web search> to find some "old" folks involved, but they are mostly only> nominally involved, but not substantively, with APNG camp,> which is getting much more youth oriented, and henth> future oriented. While they are not all intersted in Domain> Name or IP addres areas per se at this moment, they are> very much acting as user/culture initiatives. Thus I don't understand> why you make so much noise about what you really do not> know. Please mind your own business first. Don' try to shoot your> potential friends, serisouly.> > izumi> > > 2008/4/11, Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp>:> >> > Danny,> >> > The purpose of the camp is to bring young people> > working on Internet technology and policy issues> > together with some of the experienced folk. The> > camp's goal is to nurture the next generation of> > Internet pioneers (apologies if that sounds a> > little hackneyed, but that's really what it tries> > to do...) You have things back to front, it's> > not a junket for the experienced but an> > opportunity for those who want to learn and to> > contribute in the future.> >> > It also has a secondary purpose of helping these> > younger people present papers in English and> > discuss issues in English. Most are not native> > English speaker. Necessary if they are to be able> > to participate in organizations line ICANN.> >> > Information about the camp <http://www.apng.org/10thcamp.htm>> >> > I am not involved in the camp, have no knowledge> > of its current level of sponsorship, programme> > etc. But think important to correct Danny's> > misrepresentation of the camp's purpose.> >> > Best,> >> > Adam> >> >> >> > At 5:45 AM -0700 4/11/08, Danny Younger wrote:> > >Cheryl,> > >> > >Please forward this message to whomever sits on the> > >Budget & Finance SubCommittee.> > >> > >At the meeting scheduled for 18 April the subcommittee> > >will discuss agenda item 6 (Listing of> > >Community-Identified Priorities for 2008/2009 with a> > >Budgetary Dimension) which includes a request by the> > >APRALO for "Funding to sponsor the APNG Camp in> > >Thailand (Outreach)".> > >> > >The APNG Camp annually draws about 50 participants.> > >It has an executive committee that includes a number> > >of well-known ICANN luminaries such as Tommy Matsumoto> > >(former ALAC member), Kilnam Chon and Paul Wilson.> > >> > >It has an Advisory Board that also includes figures> > >well-known in ICANN circles such as Tan Tin Wee and> > >Jun Murai (former ICANN Board Director).> > >> > >The APNG Steering Committee includes people like Izumi> > >Aizu (current ALAC member) and James Seng.> > >> > >Its At-Large Committee includes Qian Hualin (former> > >ICANN Board director and Hong Xue (current ALAC> > >member).> > >> > >At last year's camp, Tuesday morning saw a> > >presentation on "ICANN ALAC and APRALO activities".> > >> > >This is probably the one organization in the world for> > >which an ALAC Outreach effort is most definately not> > >required. The Camp is primarily populated by those> > >that know ICANN all too well -- they have no need of> > >an outreach effort as their own internal committees> > >and members are all fully familiar with the ALAC and> > >RALO and ICANN processes.> > >> > >Spending funds on this initiative ostensibly on behalf> > >of "outreach" is not only a waste of monies, but it's> > >an insult to the integrity of the ALAC funds> > >disbursement process.> > >> > >The ALAC should not be in the business of funding> > >junkets.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >__________________________________________________> > >Do You Yahoo!?> > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around> > >http://mail.yahoo.com> > >> > >_______________________________________________> > >ALAC mailing list> > >ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > >> > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > >> > >At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > ALAC mailing list> > ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org> >> >> > > -- > >> Izumi Aizu <<> > Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita> Kumon Center, Tama University, Tokyo> Japan> * * * * *> << Writing the Future of the History >>> www.anr.org> _______________________________________________> ALAC mailing list> ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org> > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org _________________________________________________________________ Descargá GRATIS el poder del nuevo Internet Explorer 7. http://optimized.msn.com/Default.aspx?mkt=es-ar